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Have any of you guys seen the movie "Carving the White"?  I think Scott Kennett, at least based on that point in his ski career, is one of the best all round skiers ever.  His mogul skiing and steep skiing in that movie was awesome. 

 

It seemed to me that he started skiing in Warren Miller way before he reached the peak of his ability.  Maybe that's one of the reasons he never seemed to become all that well known.  I think he was underrated. 

 

I don't think that there are too many people in the world that ski both moguls and other terrain equally at that level (shown in "Carving the White).  I don't consider even McConkey to be a person who did moguls and other stuff equally.  McConkey's absorption (or lack there of) in the bumps left a lot of room for improvement.  It was pretty rough. 

 

I can't find any footage of "Carving the White" online. 

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I can't find any footage of "Carving the White" online. 


Think there may be a reason for that? You can also find footage of your new ski hero in the Telluride segment of "Blizzard" I believe, with his dog, who by the way was more famous then Kennett. 

 

Now while Kennett may be a great skier, I think you need a history lesson before you start saying Shane couldn't ski moguls. As for Kennett being one of the best all around skiers ever, that is doubtful. That list is long and Kennett is probably way down it, if on it at all. However I'm pretty sure McConkey would make the list. 

 

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Scott is really good.  Everybody's list is different.  Mine would be full of WC skiers as apposed to film stars.

 

Most film stars were washed up racers that never made it. 

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Most film stars were washed up racers that never made it. 



Ahhh.... never mind. 

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You can also find footage of your new ski hero in the Telluride segment of "Blizzard" I believe, with his dog, who by the way was more famous then Kennett. 

I'm not sure I said he's my "new ski hero", but whatever, I do like his skiing a lot.  I have "Blizzard", I like his skiing in "Carving the White" a lot more.  I think it was a lot better. 

 

His dog was no doubt more famous. 

 

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Now while Kennett may be a great skier, I think you need a history lesson before you start saying Shane couldn't ski moguls.

I doubt you could give me much of a history lesson.  I assume your referring to Shane's one pro-mogul tour victory?  I have the movies that show him in the moguls.  Which ones do you have that show him?


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As for Kennett being one of the best all around skiers ever, that is doubtful. That list is long and Kennett is probably way down it, if on it at all. However I'm pretty sure McConkey would make the list.

I would put Shane on the list of the best 'ski stunt men' ever.  I'm not really talking about aerials here. I'm also not really thinking that high speed powder skiing (which Shane did a lot of, although I'm aware of what other things he did too) should have a lot of weight in deciding who the best all round skiers are.  It's not extremely technical and is also only one kind of terrain.  I think that "all terrain" means, moguls, ice, crud, steeps etc.  In modern movies the skiers are typically shown only in powder so it's hard to judge who can ski other terrain the best.  Powder is one type of terrain only.

 

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Mine would be full of WC skiers as apposed to film stars.

 

Most film stars were washed up racers that never made it.

On a note related to world cup skiers, you might be interested to know that Jim Moran (world cup mogul skier) was also skiing in the section of "Carving the White" that I am talking about with Scott Kennett.  I think that Kennett's skiing was better.  Jim's aerials were better though. 

 

That may be true about some film stars being "washed up racers", but in my opinion, many of the film stars are better all round skiers than many of the racers that do succeed in competition.  For example, I doubt that Tommy Moe or whoever can ski steeps with a style as nice as Scot Schmidt, who was a downhill racer when he was young.  I think a lot of the racers may get sucked into just practicing their one thing that they're competing in, so they end up with a strict style that doesn't adapt well to other terrain.  Other terrain that they may not practice a whole lot on.  Anyway, I'm strictly talking about all mountain skiers.  The list of the best racers would be a different list in my mind.

 

 


Edited by Ronin - 12/1/11 at 10:35pm
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Some people seem to rank the best skiers in the order or their level of fame.  The most famous first, the second most famous second and so on.  If we did that like that though, wouldn't it imply that we don't have any thoughts of our own on the matter? 

 

I bet if I said "Scot Schmidt is one the best skiers ever" no one would argue partially because he's really famous.  Scot Schmidt had a lot of trouble in the moguls though (see "License to Thrill"), so it wouldn't be unreasonable to compare Kennett to him either in all mountain skiing which would include moguls.

 

Shane McConkey is so famous that I doubt I could say that anyone is better than him without an argument, unless I was saying that about Seth Morrison who may be the only more famous freeskier.  Isn't it possible that some less famous or even unknown skiers could be as good or better than the well known ones?  Anyway, I was saying that Kennett is "underrated".  To me Ske-Bums posts support that idea. 

 

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What about Brad Holmes?  He's a little more well known... I'm wondering if some people might be more impressed by him, but what is the difference between him and Kennett?  They both ski moguls and other stuff very well.  In my opinion, Kennett's skiing in Carving the White in the moguls is better than most of the mogul skiing I've seen Holmes do. 

 

Anyway, I'd say the same thing about Brad Holmes... one of the best all round skiers ever in my opinion.  And similar in the types of skiing he did well to Kennett. 

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Anyway, I'd say the same thing about Brad Holmes... one of the best all round skiers ever in my opinion.  And similar in the types of skiing he did well to Kennett. 


I don't know about Brad being one of the best ever, but I do know he will have an opinion on the subject. I will ask him the next time I see him, he lives right down the street. I will let you know what he says, should be interesting. 

 

There are plenty of unknown skiers (unknown to the general public that is) that ski at a very, very high level. Squaw is loaded with them. High enough to be in the movies, probably. But movies slots have a lot more to do with who you are skiing for or on any more. I can name 5, maybe 10 guys that ski well enough to be sponsored, but aren't. Not enough slots out there. 

 

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I don't know about Brad being one of the best ever, but I do know he will have an opinion on the subject. I will ask him the next time I see him, he lives right down the street. I will let you know what he says, should be interesting.

That's cool.  I'd be interested to hear what he says if you remember to ask. 

 

I don't know if you are good friends with him or whatever, but if you look at this forum with him when your talking to him or something... while you're at it, maybe you could ask him what he thinks of my skiing.  There's a link to my videos in my signature.  I have always really respected Brad Holmes' skiing.  I would jump at the chance to hear his opinion.  Kennett and Holmes are great skiers in the moguls and out of them.  I haven't ever competed or anything, but I have tried to get good in and out of the moguls as well.  If you don't get a chance, don't worry about it though. 

 

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But movies slots have a lot more to do with who you are skiing for or on any more.

Yeah, that's probably true. 


Edited by Ronin - 12/3/11 at 5:25am
post #10 of 28

Have you ever seen Plake ski the moguls? I watched him once in the early 90's, from the chair at Grand Targhee, made everyone else look like they are skiing backwards?

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Yeah, I have.  He's good.  I also like Mike Hattrup's skiing.

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Good ol' Zudnik.   Leif Borgeson and I discussed one of his misadventures a few years ago - something about an elk taken out by Zudnik down by the highway. wink.gif  Miss ya Leif.

 

Scott and Zudnick out playing in the snow in the video.

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Have you ever seen Plake ski the moguls? I watched him once in the early 90's, from the chair at Grand Targhee, made everyone else look like they are skiing backwards?



Remember back in the day when Plake skied on 223 downhill race skis in bumps?

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Unlike most ski heros/stars (who come and go) Glen Plake is STILL one of the best you may ever see.

 

His latest trick is not only to find and unskied decent, but ski it when most people say there is no snow to ski on (it's snowing now BTW in Europe)

 

http://mountaintracks.co.uk/blog/first-descent-pointe-de-la-lune-punta-di-ceresole-remy-lecluse-and-glen-plake

 

 

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Yea, no doubt Plake is an amazing skier -- and gracious as well.

 

A bit more modern, how abut Henrik Winstedt?  He was on the Swedish junior mogul team, won the Swedish big mountain championship 6 times, won the world freeride championship in 2008, and has reached the podium in several different events in the X-Games.

 

Mike

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I haven't heard of Henrik Winstedt?  Anyone have a clip?

 

 

 

post #17 of 28

Watch any of the recent Matchstick Productions films.  He is one of the mainliners.

 

Mike

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I haven't heard of Henrik Winstedt?  Anyone have a clip?

 

 

 



Pretty much one of the more complete free skiers in the game. Henrik can pretty much do it all.

 

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I can't get the Henrik Winstedt video to play on the computers I'm on this week... I was on some different ones when the Kennet video was added to this thread though, so I did play that one.  Just for the record, his skiing in the movie I've been talking about is a lot different.  Carving the white was much later in his ski movie career.  His equipment looks a lot older in the video posted.  I seem to remember he also was skiing good in Tales from the Snowzone which I believe was made a season or two before Carving the White.  ...or maybe it was Return to the Snowzone. 

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Blake, Thanks for the good words,makes an old bumper feel good.

your right Carving the white was some of my better work. I still think the footage from Stumps The Good The Rad The Gnarly was my all time fav, Cheek it out if you can find it, Robert "Dogwood' Aguirre was on fire and Geoff Stump was killing it too, Zudnik was in his prime and was rippin  I dig his part. Stump never embraced the film because he made it wierd with the Harry Ackerman stuff.

 

'     Blake if you can find it I would love some help posting the Zudnik sequence on utube. send me a face book friends request if you get a chance. Ski ya later Scott Kennett

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Blake, Thanks for the good words,makes an old bumper feel good.

your right Carving the white was some of my better work. I still think the footage from Stumps The Good The Rad The Gnarly was my all time fav, Cheek it out if you can find it, Robert "Dogwood' Aguirre was on fire and Geoff Stump was killing it too, Zudnik was in his prime and was rippin  I dig his part. Stump never embraced the film because he made it wierd with the Harry Ackerman stuff.

 

'     Blake if you can find it I would love some help posting the Zudnik sequence on utube. send me a face book friends request if you get a chance. Ski ya later Scott Kennett



Scott,

 

Welcome to Epic. Here is some of my favorite Zudnik video. 

 

post #22 of 28

Zudnick...  The Wonder Dog!

 

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JF

post #23 of 28
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Blake, Thanks for the good words,makes an old bumper feel good.

No problem : )  I fully believe what I said. 

 

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your right Carving the white was some of my better work. I still think the footage from Stumps The Good The Rad The Gnarly was my all time fav, Cheek it out if you can find it, Robert "Dogwood' Aguirre was on fire and Geoff Stump was killing it too, Zudnik was in his prime and was rippin  I dig his part. Stump never embraced the film because he made it wierd with the Harry Ackerman stuff.

I used to have The Good the Rad and the Gnarly.  I'm not sure if I still have it somewhere.  I'll have to see.  It's not in my current apartment.  I don't remember that movie all that well. 

 

Greg Stump definitely weirded up a movie or two lol... Dr. Strangeglove comes to mind : ) 

 

Geoff Stump has some great skiing in some of the movies I've watched more recently, like License to Thrill. 

 

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Blake if you can find it I would love some help posting the Zudnik sequence on utube. send me a face book friends request if you get a chance. Ski ya later Scott Kennett

 

I'd like to help if I can.  I will message you on facebook. 

 

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     Zudnik was a truely specal dog, a lot of times I felt that he was meant to be, and do all he did.  I can't begin to tell you how many close calls he had with either getting plugged by a truck or shot by a angry rancher, he had, and used up way more than 9 lives, He ate or killed about every kind of farm animal known to man, and for some reason ate the seat belts in about 5 cars and not just one or two, but all of them. He fathered 63 pups which meant he poked about every female dog in Telluride, some times twice. When we lived in town he would go bar hopping, no shit, a lot of times with me, but a lot of times by himself. He would hop up on a bar stool and paw on the bar untill the bartender gave him a beer. The bar owner would tease me the next day and say Zudnik bought rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar and this is how much I owe.  Once a town cop wanted to give Zudnik a drunken disorderly ticket for being passed out in front of the bar. But for the most part Zudnik was amazingly loyal and a super athletic dog that had a real connection to people and his environment.        

 

      One of the most amazing things I found he did was one time we lived in an old house on Pacific street in T-ride and the bath room door would shut by its self, the door was an old solid wood door and on the kichen floor we put down some old shag carpet so your feet wouldn't freeze in the winter, well Zudnik opened the doo,r went in to raid the water in the tolet bowl and the door shut behind him. I came back after skiing and noticed the shag carpet in the kitchen was gone, then I saw that the bottom 2 feet of the bath room door had been eatten off.  When I went into the bathroom I found that he had pulled the carpet thru the bottom of the door.  It was not a small rug, it was at least a 12x12 foot heavy old hunk of shag and of course Zudnik was off cruising town.  More tails to come. smile.gif   Ski ya later. Scott Kennett. 

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Zudnik was a truely  a specal dog, a lot of times I felt that he was meant to be, and do all he did.  I can't begin to tell you how many close calls he had with either getting plugged by a truck or shot by a angry rancher, he had, and used up way more than 9 lives, He ate or killed about every kind of farm animal known to man, and for some reason ate the seat belts in about 5 cars and not just one or two, but all of them. He fathered 63 pups which meant he poked about every female dog in Telluride, sometimes twice. When we lived in town he would go bar hopping, no shit, a lot of times with me, but a lot of times by himself. He would hop up on a bar stool and paw on the bar until the bartender gave him a beer. The bar owner would tease me the next day and say Zudnik bought rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar and this is how much I owe.  Once a town cop wanted to give Zudnik a drunken disorderly ticket for being passed out in front of a bar, but a friend talked the cop out to the ticket and took Zundnik home. But for the most part Zudnik was amazingly loyal and a super athletic dog that had a real connection to people and his environment.       

      One of the most amazing things I found he did was one time we lived in an old house on Pacific street in T-ride and the bath room door would shut by its self, the door was an old solid wood door and on the kitchen floor we put down some old shag carpet so your feet wouldn't freeze in the winter, well Zudnik opened the door went in to raid the water in the toilet bowl and the door shut behind him. I came back after skiing and noticed the shag carpet in the kitchen was gone, then I saw that the bottom 2 feet of the bath room door had been eaten off.  When I went into the bathroom I found that he had pulled the carpet thru the bottom of the door.  It was not a small rug, it was at least a 12x12 foot heavy old hunk of shag and of course Zudnik was off cruising town.  More tails to come.smile.gif   Ski ya later. Scott Kennett.

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Zudnik was a truely  a specal dog, a lot of times I felt that he was meant to be, and do all he did.  I can't begin to tell you how many close calls he had with either getting plugged by a truck or shot by a angry rancher, he had, and used up way more than 9 lives, He ate or killed about every kind of farm animal known to man, and for some reason ate the seat belts in about 5 cars and not just one or two, but all of them. He fathered 63 pups which meant he poked about every female dog in Telluride, sometimes twice. When we lived in town he would go bar hopping, no shit, a lot of times with me, but a lot of times by himself. He would hop up on a bar stool and paw on the bar until the bartender gave him a beer. The bar owner would tease me the next day and say Zudnik bought rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar and this is how much I owe.  Once a town cop wanted to give Zudnik a drunken disorderly ticket for being passed out in front of a bar, but a friend talked the cop out to the ticket and took Zundnik home. But for the most part Zudnik was amazingly loyal and a super athletic dog that had a real connection to people and his environment.       

      One of the most amazing things I found he did was one time we lived in an old house on Pacific street in T-ride and the bath room door would shut by its self, the door was an old solid wood door and on the kitchen floor we put down some old shag carpet so your feet wouldn't freeze in the winter, well Zudnik opened the door went in to raid the water in the toilet bowl and the door shut behind him. I came back after skiing and noticed the shag carpet in the kitchen was gone, then I saw that the bottom 2 feet of the bath room door had been eaten off.  When I went into the bathroom I found that he had pulled the carpet thru the bottom of the door.  It was not a small rug, it was at least a 12x12 foot heavy old hunk of shag and of course Zudnik was off cruising town.  More tails to come.smile.gif   Ski ya later. Scott Kennett.

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     Zudnik was a truely specal dog, a lot of times I felt that he was meant to be, and do all he did.  I can't begin to tell you how many close calls he had with either getting plugged by a truck or shot by a angry rancher, he had, and used up way more than 9 lives, He ate or killed about every kind of farm animal known to man, and for some reason ate the seat belts in about 5 cars and not just one or two, but all of them. He fathered 63 pups which meant he poked about every female dog in Telluride, some times twice. When we lived in town he would go bar hopping, no shit, a lot of times with me, but a lot of times by himself. He would hop up on a bar stool and paw on the bar untill the bartender gave him a beer. The bar owner would tease me the next day and say Zudnik bought rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar and this is how much I owe.  Once a town cop wanted to give Zudnik a drunken disorderly ticket for being passed out in front of the bar. But for the most part Zudnik was amazingly loyal and a super athletic dog that had a real connection to people and his environment.        

 

      One of the most amazing things I found he did was one time we lived in an old house on Pacific street in T-ride and the bath room door would shut by its self, the door was an old solid wood door and on the kichen floor we put down some old shag carpet so your feet wouldn't freeze in the winter, well Zudnik opened the doo,r went in to raid the water in the tolet bowl and the door shut behind him. I came back after skiing and noticed the shag carpet in the kitchen was gone, then I saw that the bottom 2 feet of the bath room door had been eatten off.  When I went into the bathroom I found that he had pulled the carpet thru the bottom of the door.  It was not a small rug, it was at least a 12x12 foot heavy old hunk of shag and of course Zudnik was off cruising town.  More tails to come. smile.gif   Ski ya later. Scott Kennett. 


Sure he wasn't Charlie Sheen reincarnated?

 

post #28 of 28
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When we lived in town he would go bar hopping, no shit, a lot of times with me, but a lot of times by himself. He would hop up on a bar stool and paw on the bar untill the bartender gave him a beer.  The bar owner would tease me the next day and say Zudnik bought rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar and this is how much I owe.  Once a town cop wanted to give Zudnik a drunken disorderly ticket for being passed out in front of a bar, but a friend talked the cop out to the ticket and took Zundnik home.

That's hilarious!  And really smart too that he knew how to go to a bar and get a beer by himself. 

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