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Rossi E88

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Thread Starter 

 

Title: Rossignol E88

 

Product:

Length Tested: 178 & 186

Dimensions/Turn Radius:  

Camber Tip & Tail w/camber

Binding: Demo

Mount point: Suggested (boot center) 

 

Environment & Conditions:

Location of Test:JHMR

Number of Runs:178 6 runs, 186 8 runs

Snow Conditions: Groomers, Icy bumps, Refrozen Crud

Demo or Own: Demo

 

Tester Info:

Username: TPJ

Age: 48

Height/Weight:5'10", 175 lbs

Ski Days/Season: 100+

Years Skiing: 30+

Aggressiveness: Aggressive(Driver) 

Current Quiver:188 S7, 172 Contact Limited, 176 Gotoma, 176 Sumo

Home Area: JHMR

Preferred Terrain bumps, off-piste, trees

 

Review: 

Really nice skis!  I liked them a lot, but liked the E98 much better.  I skied the 178 for a few hours and then skied the 186 for a few hours the next day.  Both skis had great edge hold and could carve or schmear very well.  Neither made great short turns, but the 178 was a bit less work in this area.  Both made great longer arcs and as expected the longer ski was a bit damper.  Both skis ran smooth at speed and absorbed terrain changes well for me.  The ski seemed very quick edge to edge for an 88 waisted ski.  The second day was a bit rougher than the first with colder temps and refrozen conditions.  I skied some refrozen crud and jagged bumps with the 186 and the ski did well in these not so ideal conditions.  I didn't ski bumps on the shorter ski, but expect that it would be a little easier, although the shorter ski might be more prone to vibration in the refrozen conditions.  

 

I skied 1/2 day on the 180 E98 and found it superior to the E88 for my skiing style.  I couldn't get a 188 E98 for demo.  I also skied a few runs on a 178 Atomic Theory.  I have never loved Atomics and found the Theory to be a nice ski, but not my cup of tea.  IMO both of the Rossi skis were much better.

 

Conclusion:

I could be very happy with an E88.  I preferred the E98.  

 

Pros:

Very smooth and stable in all of the conditions I encountered.  Quick edge to edge with a solid grip.  Seems like a solid crud buster  

 

Cons:

A good choice for a one ski quiver, but probably a bit stiff for optimum powder performance.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 12

Nice. IYE, how do these stack up in feel and handling to the BMX88 or Bushwacker? Or conversely, how did the E98's compare to the BMX98 and Bonafide? Thanks. 

post #3 of 12

search function and you'll find this for starters:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/105348/bonafide-or-experience-98-that-is-the-question

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/102332/review-2012-rossignol-experience-98

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/103208/review-2012-kastle-bmx-98

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/102157/2012-blizzard-bonafide

 

etc....

 

 

There are reviews of all the skis you mention. Should answer, or help you frame your question more precisely.


Edited by markojp - 12/2/11 at 9:12am
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 

Sorry, haven't skied either of those skis so I can't give you a decent answer.  I don't have ready access to Kastle or Blizzard.  I could get them, but it would be an effort and I might have to pay.
 

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Nice. IYE, how do these stack up in feel and handling to the BMX88 or Bushwacker? Or conversely, how did the E98's compare to the BMX98 and Bonafide? Thanks. 



 

post #5 of 12

I just picked up some E88's myself. I demoed them last year and after thinking about an inexpensive ski for hard snow and for incoming guests, the E88 was a logical choice. I skied them today and I was grinning ear to ear all the while while skiing it. It is not supposed to snow for a while here in Tahoe..these E88's will get a lot of snow time in the next couple of weeks.  

post #6 of 12

TPJ ...I'd love to hear a report on the 186 Theory in soft snow conditions...also where were the demos mounted? team line or conventional rear mark?

 

I'm hoping the 180cm E98 will work well for me here in the Northeast as it seems to lean towards firmer surfaces and mixed/crud.

post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

I just picked up some E88's myself. I demoed them last year and after thinking about an inexpensive ski for hard snow and for incoming guests, the E88 was a logical choice. I skied them today and I was grinning ear to ear all the while while skiing it. It is not supposed to snow for a while here in Tahoe..these E88's will get a lot of snow time in the next couple of weeks.  



Did you mount those up with the Carbon Knee bindings?  duck.gif

 

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

I will attempt to demo the 186 Theory for you.  I didn't really like the Theory that much, but am interested in how the longer ski is different from the shorter ski.  I had intended to demo both lengths, but was under-impressed with the 178 and lost interest.  Right now I understand we might have the best snow in the country, but it is hard-pack and bumps studded with rocks.  I have about a week to demo skis and work on my snowboarding before I get busy.  I'll see what I can do.

 

My 180 E98 is mounted and ready for me to pick up.  I'm really psyched on this ski.  I think you will like it.  IMO the 2 sheets of metal made the E98 much better than the E88.  My demo was on firmer surfaces, bumps, and mixed refrozen crud.  I wish I could have demoed the E98 in the 188, but it isn't going to be available in the demo fleet this year.  I had to make a choice and the 180 was pretty awesome.  My sponsor will be on the 188 and we have the same BSL so I will eventually get to try it, but it probably won't be until after the new year.
 

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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

TPJ ...I'd love to hear a report on the 186 Theory in soft snow conditions...also where were the demos mounted? team line or conventional rear mark?

 

I'm hoping the 180cm E98 will work well for me here in the Northeast as it seems to lean towards firmer surfaces and mixed/crud.



 

post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post



Did you mount those up with the Carbon Knee bindings?  duck.gif

 



Did you really have to ask? 

post #10 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View PostDid you really have to ask? 



I really did   devil.gif

 

post #11 of 12

TPJ,

 

I have been getting better reviews for the Rossi Scimitar, and Sickle. If you get a chance try those..I have not tried, but people I trust seem to really like em.Its a different beast for sure, but one that is told to me shines in hardpack, as well as soft. We will be back up there in January, and will be trying to look you up again.

 

Lee


Edited by LeeX - 12/6/11 at 8:42am
post #12 of 12

My expected deal on a pair of used Hart Pulse II's fell through, so I'm still looking for a bump ski this winter.  What do you think of the E88 as a firm bump ski?  I ski NW Mass and VT most of the time.  Except for the spring, the bumps will vary from being the size and consistency of VW Beetles to being pretty soft and nice for a while after a good dump.  In the spring it's, well, spring skiing.  I would probably mound them with spare set of FKS's that are hanging around.  Any other skis that would be recommended for eastern bump skiing?  I'm not competitive, just have a great time, and want something that is responsive and reasonably quick, and can be driven in the bumps. 

 

Thanks, John

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