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What SL ski did you choose and why

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Im particulary interested in the reason why you chose a particular SL ski over annother? Price, graphics, review results, WC results, demo, price, other. Example of brands: Atomic, Head, Volkl, Dynastar, Rossignol and Blizzard.

post #2 of 24

I just brought my second pair of new skis,   both without demo (not advocating this appoach just what I did)

 

In both cases I thought about what am I trying to get out the particular ski,  

The first ski is Rossignol strato 80 and I was looking for a ski mostly focused on groomers as that is mostly what I do in Australia, I  tended to not worry about bumps etc.  Really happy with this choice for those morning runs down the freshly groomed runs driving the tips and feeling ski excelorate out from the tail is a real buzz and I havent found top speed on these yet.  But as the snow gets softer in the afternoon and chopped up these are pretty hard work,  I think I have learnt to ride them with a mix of pressure and pop to maintain some fun in the afternoons.

 

Now as I am travelling to do my skiing as well I decided to buy another ski. So I have targeted a more all mountain ski but in contrast to the stiff technical ski I have for the groomers I think I have picked a ski that is on the softer side and has more playful attributes. 
Should be great for powder, bumps and tree sking in Utah feb2012,   also great for mucking around on a skied out groomer in Aust afternoons.

Dont know if I have got it right yet,  as will not ride until trip. 

 

I hope I havent gone to long,we'll see I guess!

 

So answer is, I over analyse purpose of the ski and match reviews to that formed idea.

 

Richo

post #3 of 24

2010 Head i.SL RD 165cm

 

I skied XRC500s which were great as a haven't-skied-for-15-years-beginner-again skis. I have a pair of i.M78s which are still my goto, catch-all skis. I have a pair of '05 i.GS RDs that I race for kicks. I just love the damp, dependable feel of Head. So when my Fischer SLs were finally declared edgeless I was very happy to stoke my fondness for Head with a pair of lightly used i.SLs. The price was right too - that was important. I don't race SL, so I'm not interested in paying for new race skis every season, even at 25% discount. Graphics don't really come into it - most race skis look ok anyway.

 

I should be getting on them at the weekend, as the boy racer is off to camp. Poor me having to tag along for the ride, hehehe. We'll see if they live up to my expectations.

 

 

post #4 of 24
Fischer RC4 WC SL 165cm.

2001,2002,2004,...2011.RC4s has correct stiffness for me.Tradition?:)Perhaps,but after the March 2012,I plan to break this tradition.Other brands have come up with a better offer.I will choose from
:Rossi,Blizzard,Head,Elan.I love racing Tyrolia bindings,so Head/Elan will have a little bit easier:D
post #5 of 24

07/08 Rossi WC SL 9S.....Why?  Price and price only.  I was offered these at a heavily discounted rate this year and I couldn't pass them up.  Race plate, freshly tuned, 4 days on the snow.  There are differences between brands but I don't see enough to pass up a really good offer. 

post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your responce. Keep them stories comming boyz and gals. Skuawker, be sure to give us your trip report. Arsi, have you been skiing on the tip hole ski?

post #7 of 24

my slalom ski is a cheater since i'm not much of a racer.  It is a Kneissl RedStar SC, with a 12.5 M turn radius at 166 cm.  I think the history and tradition of kneissl sucked me in more than anything together with the fact most of my skiing is done on short hills with groomed snow so having a short radius ski is alotta fun.  Had i not purchased that ski, i'd have some other consumer slalom racer or almost slalom racer. dave 

post #8 of 24

Storm Inferno.

 

British brand. Czech made (maybe Slovenia).

 

Wanted to buy a new slalom ski at a great price and figured I could get a good value by buying a lesser known brand.

Considered also buying a Japanese branded slalom ski. 

 

The Storm Infernos are very well made with more than enough edge for repeated grinding, tuning, etc.

 

I use them for very icy days here in New England and whenever I feel like making oodles of turns at let's say, "vertically challenged" ski areas.

 

post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post

Thanks for all your responce. Keep them stories comming boyz and gals. Skuawker, be sure to give us your trip report. Arsi, have you been skiing on the tip hole ski?

Yes.I have the "lochski".And as you know,Fischer from this season(11/12) made SLs only with the hole tech.Soft "S"(as stantard) from Fischer's RD is gone.Exist is only T(tunned) version.
post #10 of 24

My non-race slalom ski was the Fischer WC SC.  I've always had a fondness for Fischer ever since they came through for us Canucks back in the 70's (back when it seemed like you had to be European to get good skis from the factory). 

 

I had tried out the RX8's, and read countless reviews.  I was looking for a short radius ski to explore the whole shaped ski thing.  What clinched it was a fantastic deal.  I almost bought some two-year-old new Atomic SL left-over skis from my local shop, but he wanted too much money for them.  I think he was planning on writing them off his taxes as a business loss and skiing them himselfmad.gif.   The Atomics would have felt more solid, and more like what I was used to, but I can ski anything.  It's good to ski different skis and adapt and see what you can learn from them.  The Fischer's are less likely to lead one to being heavy handed, and make it easier to find the edge.  Atomics are maybe a little easier to ski on frozen crap.  I was quite happy with the Fischers.  I think, just my guess really, Heads would be somewhere between the two.

 

 

post #11 of 24

I have always gone by feel.  Nordica used to be my ski of choice: smooth, yet torsionaly stiff.  Atomic, rossi, dynastar - too skittish.  Head was to much for me to control & real stock was hard too come by...... Then I found Blossom, perfect blend of smooth / power!!!!

So I import them!

post #12 of 24

I think more than any other type of skis,brand loyalty comes into play with slalom skis.If you grew up on atomics your  gonna be an atomic guy same as fischer,elan or any of them.I think slalom skis are the most personal and important of your quiver.Soft snow;who cares, because it's soft snow but when your ass is on top of that steep slope and your gonna slide all the way to the bottom if you lose it....your gonna want your go to slalom ski and for me i grew up on st-comps and 7s's so of course i'm on the rossi cs 70 and love them.

post #13 of 24

Last year I bought a pair of Blizzard SLR Race Mag IQ 160 cm which I use for Slalom races in the adult league I am in.  Was all set to buy the Volkl Speedwalls as I love Volkls but the shop where I work p/t only did not bring in the 160 length which I wanted.  Plus Blizzard was the first pair of skis that I bought back in '72 and always had a fondness for the brand.  I won the first 2 slalom races last season and got bumped up to the next division by the end of the season.  So yeah, I like them!

 

Rick G

post #14 of 24

I skied on the Atomic SL 11 (two pair, one early, one later) for the past seven years. I has trouble making non-shaped skis carve in lessons and a instructor friend suggested I get a used pair of SL skis. As the story goes it took two hours to wipe the smile off my face after I stopped skiing. I flogged the first pair I picked up on ebay for three years and bought the second newer pair new from the local rep via a instructor friend.

 

The race coaches I spoken with tell me the junior racers all do well on Atomics. I have skied the Rossi Oversized series SL on a powder day so I did not get a real chance to compare.

 

My advice would be to stick with skis that are made by companies that make race skis. They were my every day ski (yes powder and crud) for those seven years until I discovered fatties. Skied the end of two seasons ago on a Line Mothership wow what a ride! Wanted more side cut and last year skied on a Ski Logik Ullr's Chariot (15m side cut) 150-101-134 another WOW do it all but deep powder for me (6'3" 250 lbs).

post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 

Great input from all of you. Great stories. Whent and checked out Blossom skis. Didnt know of their existance. Kneissel is a old brand making great skis. Annother retro brand is Kästle but they dont make specific SL skis. Keep the stories comming.  

post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 

rickg, you chose the Blizzard SLR Race Mag IQ 160 over the Magnesium SL, why? Volkl makes two SL skis. Which one were you interested in?

post #17 of 24

Picked up a pair of 2011 Atomic FIS SL D2 158 last March at an end of season closeout price. I replaced a pair of

'08 Atomic ST155. Haven't used them in a course yet, but they felt good freeskiing. Race season is still 5 weeks away (and we

have no snow yet!) so we'll see if they help improve my glacial slalom times....

 

AT this point, I'm a dedicated Atomic guy- I have 5 pairs of Atomic race skis: 183 D2 FIS GS, 179 Cheater GS,176 LT 12 GS,

195 Super G, and the slaloms. I'm open to trying other brands, but demos are almost impossible to find, and I hate to spend big

bucks on something I haven't skied. Atomic usually changes their design about every three years, so it'll be interesting to see what

they come up with for 2013.

post #18 of 24

For this season it is Nordica (Dobermann SLR 156). I used to ski the Atomic SL (no D2) in 155. Unfortunately the Atomic dealers give you a hard time here, if you do not like the D2 version. I got a much better offer last spring by Nordica. Over the summer I slowly, slowly got used to the Dobermann. So it was more being the arrogant manor of Atomic, than the way the ski worked. Now I think Nordica SL Fis is more reliable and very good to controll. Atomic SL Fis is more aggressive and more challenging. I love both, but I think it will be hard not to cheat on the Dobermann and take my brand new but last years Atomic I still have out for a ride this winter.. 

post #19 of 24

This year's Atomic D2 165 (I got them at the end of last year). Best quickness, edge hold, energy out of the turn...

post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 

shermine, be sure to keep us posted. Will the Nordica be as good or better than the Atomic or will you go back to A. At our local race shop they give you a hard time if you choose the D2 version. Kind of the other way arround, strange. In Austria they were also negative about the non D2 version and you could not buy it in a shop.

 

SkiRacer55, did you choose the Atomic D2 over any other brand? Or did you demo annother brands but stuck to what you got?

post #21 of 24

I have Atomic D2 SL 165- 2011 year model... Love the ski.. Has highest speed limit of all SL skis thanks to the D2. I had the previous year model 2010 the one with 614-1018 bindings...The newest model feels much more alive and more turny... Can't tell why.. the radius is 12.5, compared to 13m which is no difference by any means.

 

Actually I was always wondering what is the story behind WC guys ditching the D2 platform in SL.

 

I heard it all on local race level.The D2's were: too damp, too stiff; too soft; holds the edge too long; not much of a rebound out of a turn.. It is funny because all of the local racers either have non D2 version, or other flat SL skis, like Fischer, Head, etc. Like it would matter..

 

IMO I think the D2 SL is a great ski: fast, damp; stable; holds the edge really well/it's soft where needed and gets stiffer progressively... The D2 SL's  most likely have torsional and longitudinal  stiffness higher than most, but because of the control deck, they tend to bend easy and initiate the turn easier and people think  they are softer, that they actually are. Overall is one of the best SL skis to race on and freeski at the same time... At least  for   us, regular guys, not the WC crowd......

post #22 of 24

tdk6, I will. :) I am very curious about it myself. We really are in need of snow here..

I can't believe they lack of the D2 version in Finland! Even on television they always switch it to the D2 right after the race.. But did anybody see that Marlis and Mikaela Shiffrin skied last years skis in Aspen? 

About the Atomic D2: I liked it when I first demoed it in the spring before it came out. Spring 2008 I think.. As I loved the Atomic boots anyway, I decided I liked the ski too. (Before that I was skiing Fischer for over 10 years, but it always seemed a bit too stiff). Coming from the stable Fischer the Atomic was a hole new lively experience. The snow was already slushy and I was used to a stiff ski.. The shock came when I first tried in on the glacier the summer afterwards. No matter what I did I could not bend it properly. I even considered getting my Fischers back out. After a while I got used to it and liked until I got to ski the non D2 version. I remember how great it felt from the first turn on. Maybe I should mention that I am quite light, that might make it seem stiffer to me. Yes, the D2 is incredibly stable, I just never appreciated it much because I hardly go straight on a SL ski..

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post

rickg, you chose the Blizzard SLR Race Mag IQ 160 over the Magnesium SL, why? Volkl makes two SL skis. Which one were you interested in?



I only race in a recreational league and really do not need a true FIS slalom race ski, so this consumer cheater version with the IQ binding system works well for me.  It is a blast to free ski after the races on the smaller hills we have.  Even good in the bumps.  A very fun ski!

 

Rick G

 

post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by andy4g63 View Post

I have Atomic D2 SL 165- 2011 year model... Love the ski.. Has highest speed limit of all SL skis thanks to the D2. I had the previous year model 2010 the one with 614-1018 bindings...The newest model feels much more alive and more turny... Can't tell why.. the radius is 12.5, compared to 13m which is no difference by any means.

 


Yes, that is what i found as well.  The 2010 felt dead in comparison to the 2011

 

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