Thanks for the responses. First off, I spoke with the ski shop I'm going to buy from and it looks like I can demo their skis and apply that cost to a ski purchase. So I think I'm going to hold off on buying the Atomic Access until I can try them.
One of the main things driving my decision towards the Atomic Access was something one of the guys in the store said. He said he bought his friend the Atomic Panic 87mm skis because his friend skied mostly groomed trails. A year later, his buddy wished he had picked up the 100mm Access. I don't want to end up in that position--feeling my skis are limiting me. It seems like I won't be giving up much performance on groomers with the Access, but I'll be much happier in deeper snow. Is that assessment correct?
Originally Posted by ecimmortal
As a fellow Meadows skier I support the Access for you. We are luck in that we getso much fresh that a 100 mm daily driver is not a bad thing. If you plan on upping your game, I would consider going maybe the next size up. there is nothing worse than outgrowing your equipment skill wise.
Glad to see another Meadows skier!
What do you mean "upping my game?" Getting into even deeper snow?
Also, could you tell me if there are many runs/areas filled with powder that aren't terribly steep at Meadows? I'm sure it'd be easier for me to learn to ski in powder if the terrain wasn't so steep.
Originally Posted by jaobrien6
One thing you don't talk much about is where you see your skiing going in the future. Right now, you ski mainly blue groomers, and have skied powder once. In the future, do you plan to mainly be spending time on the groomers, or will you be working on moving off trail into powder, crud, bumps, etc? And I mean, what are you *really* going to do? If you say "Man, it'd be cool to ski powder!" but know down inside that you'll still be spending 90% of your time on the groomers going forward, that's very different than if you say "I'm going to be actively working on learning the skills to move off trail, probably take some lessons, and focus on that in my skiing."
So, what do you want to do?
Good assessment man. Once I get new skis, I'll probably stick to groomers for a little while until I feel comfortable with the skis. I would like to move into powder if I can find terrain that isn't also really steep. The idea of powder friendly skis is exciting, as the feeling of floating over soft snow has been fun, even if it's just been something I've experienced in little bits on the sides of grooomed trails or when Meadows had a powder dump. My one experience in powder was on the backside of Vail, and it was so steep back there that facing down the mountain in between turns was pretty scary, especially since I didn't really know how to ski powder. I know this is a general question and I'm wondering about a specific mountain(Mt. Hood Meadows) but does powder usually come with a back/double black steepness? I'd probably have the easiest time learning to ski powder on runs that aren't super steep...
In terms of skiing crud, by that do you mean chunky hard snow? I don't like that stuff. In terms of moguls, I don't have much desire to ski moguls either--I'm impressed by people that can but I can't turn that quickly.
So does that make any sense? I'd like to ski powder if I enjoy it. So far, powder has been intimidating/mostly on very steep runs, and I haven't enjoyed it. I'd like to perhaps take a lesson on skiing powder, if I can afford it(which may not happen). Right now, I have a 10 day pass to Mt. Hood Meadows--grad school limits my skiing. I don't think I'm at either extreme you described. Perhaps I could see myself skiing groomed runs 75% of the time, and trying to ski powder the rest(if I can find a powder run that feels doable to me.)
Originally Posted by snofun3
I like my Access enough that I have a pair in SLC, and another at Whistler. They're excellent on groomers (if you have to), and really fine in crud and pow. For Northleast style ice, I'm not sure that they'd be my first choice, but you say you MIGHT move to the Ice coast in 3 years.
By that time you'll have something else anyway, so why sweat it? And the 171's would be fine for you.
One of the most fun (and underrated) skis I've been on.
Thanks! Do you think the 87mm Atomic Panic would perform significantly better on ice vs. the Atomic Access? I get that it's a couple yrs down the road, and I really don't know where I'll be, so it doesn't make sense to purchase skis based on that info. I'm just curious though, as I don't see myself having the cash to buy another pair of skis for a number of years.
Originally Posted by naptownguy
For your level and what you do, Id get the 87mm. Youll be just fine on the Access's so you can get them. But honestly if your sticking to groomers you should go a little thinner.
Thanks naptownguy. See my response to jaobrien6 and let me know what you think.