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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

Let's hear them... Goes something like this... the economy is bad, expenses are high, and you want to save money but still get your hands on some nice boards... so you buy a used pair of skis in the model you really want... and then something terrible happens.

 

Feel free to share your used-ski horror story, and how it could have been prevented.

post #2 of 26

Sorry, but I've only had good luck with used skis.

post #3 of 26

I do not want to jinx my luck by saying I am on my sixth pair of used skis and there have not been any problems.  YMMV

post #4 of 26

Never had any problems with any purchase from an Epic member or an Epic advertising business.

I also haven't had any problems with eBay, but I only bought new items.

 

post #5 of 26

The garage wall has 18 skis hanging on it for various family members.   I think two pair were bought new. It's a horror story every time I walk into a shop and see $1000+ price tags on new equipment.

post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 

Good good, I'm hoping that there are no horror stories, but when I see some prices on eBay, prices here, photos, condition description, the SHADY factor is full-dial, and I just don't know what to think.

post #7 of 26

Ya, some need some additional tuning.  Ya, sometimes there are extra holes under the bindings that weren't mentioned during the transaction (guy at thrift store isn't going to know to check under the mounted bindings).  However, more often than not that extra set of holes ends up being right where I wanted them anyway.  After all, I wouldn't be taking the bindings off either if they didn't need a re-mount anywaybiggrin.gif

 

I've never been burned ala edge too blown to ski or delam too bad to repair.  But, I'm fairly handy, and more importantly not too picky as long as the ski functions.. when it comes to stuff like that. 

 

P.S. when you buy/sell them here there is a decent chance you may eventually ski with the person you bought them from/sold them tobeercheer.gif

post #8 of 26

bought a pair of atomic racestock sl skis with less edge than seller stated, but still got a few years out of them.

 

post #9 of 26

I have only bought one pair of used skis. I got an amazing deal on a pair of Atomic Blogs, with FFG16 bindings. The setup had literally been skied maybe 3 times, and I got it for 400. Skied it for the rest of the season, sold the skis for 275, and kept the binders.

 

Any other used ski I would buy would most likely be off of here or TGR. So I don't worry about nightmares.

post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 

I find used prices here a little steep for pre-owned equipment 

post #11 of 26

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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

I have only bought one pair of used skis. I got an amazing deal on a pair of Atomic Blogs, with FFG16 bindings. The setup had literally been skied maybe 3 times, and I got it for 400. Skied it for the rest of the season, sold the skis for 275, and kept the binders.

 

Any other used ski I would buy would most likely be off of here or TGR. So I don't worry about nightmares.



FWIW, my experience is opposite.  I've bought three pairs of skis with bindings from this site: $400, $375, $200 -- all less than two years old, all in very good shape.

 

 

post #12 of 26

Got 3 pairs of used skis. Volkl Vectris (10+ years old still going strong), Volkl Ledge 111-81-111 @ 169cm twin tips, a k2 apache titan's 119-72-98. No problems with any. the Ledge and K2's were under 300 with bindings, the vectris' were dirt cheap around 80 bucks with bindings.

post #13 of 26

I have to say. Some people don't quite get the concept that a drilled ski is a used ski. And no mater how little it's been skied, the value is no where near close to the new price.

post #14 of 26

Most of my skis were purchased used.  The only real problem I've had is that they're so cheap I buy lots of 'em.

 

Bought some original X-Screams on Ebay form a kid in Vancouver many summers ago.  They took a couple of months to arrive.  Had a lot of correspondence with the seller and it took the threat of legal action to finally get him to ship.  Really enjoyed those boards though.

post #15 of 26

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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

 I got an amazing deal on a pair of Atomic Blogs, with FFG16 bindings. The setup had literally been skied maybe 3 times, and I got it for 400. Skied it for the rest of the season, sold the skis for 275, and kept the binders.

 

Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post



I have to say. Some people don't quite get the concept that a drilled ski is a used ski. And no mater how little it's been skied, the value is no where near close to the new price.



I find this ironic. If you do a little math (ratio of price of new binding + ski compared to what you paid cmpared to what you sold the ski alone for) you will see that you used the ski for an entire season then re-sold it for what you payed (actually slightly more), with absolutely no discount for the season of wear and tear.

 

Any product's 'value' is what someone is willing to pay, no more no less.

post #16 of 26

I have bought many pairs of used skis here and on TGR in the last few yearss. Every pair has been ingreat shape and I have been very pleased in all cases always getting great deals.

 

Some of the prices posted here on epic are kind of steep but that's just because the really good deals sell out quickly. 

post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

 I got an amazing deal on a pair of Atomic Blogs, with FFG16 bindings. The setup had literally been skied maybe 3 times, and I got it for 400. Skied it for the rest of the season, sold the skis for 275, and kept the binders.

 

Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post



I have to say. Some people don't quite get the concept that a drilled ski is a used ski. And no mater how little it's been skied, the value is no where near close to the new price.



I find this ironic. If you do a little math (ratio of price of new binding + ski compared to what you paid cmpared to what you sold the ski alone for) you will see that you used the ski for an entire season then re-sold it for what you payed (actually slightly more), with absolutely no discount for the season of wear and tear.

 

Any product's 'value' is what someone is willing to pay, no more no less.



I never said I skied it an entire season. The price included shipping an paypal. I have an impeccable history selling stuff on TGR for great prices, with zero complaints. If I was ever going to be called out a Mag would do it.

post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post



I never said I skied it an entire season. The price included shipping an paypal. I have an impeccable history selling stuff on TGR for great prices, with zero complaints. If I was ever going to be called out a Mag would do it.



Actually now that I go back and look at the PM history it ended up being 230 shipped.

post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

I have to say. Some people don't quite get the concept that a drilled ski is a used ski. And no mater how little it's been skied, the value is no where near close to the new price.

I'm not sure what you are trying to convey. My read would be: Many sellers overprice nearly new equipment, and, buyers of used equipment seek significant discounts. That's life in the world of supply and demand. In the Epic Used Equipment  forum, we all know low pricing sells, conversely, pricing near retail generally guarantees the item remains for sale. One aspect of that forum I like is that there is little discussion of the perceived value.

 

I would argue that a newer, high quality ski, drilled one time, and in good condition remains an attractive purchase for most. All of my quiver was bought used via Epic contacts and I've been very pleased with the performance. I'd have a hard time justifying a full MSRP on a pair of skis. Earlier this season, I was told "only a fool buys on price", but, I think an argument can be made that "only a fool buys a skis at full price". Not knocking anyone who chooses to do so as it's their money, I just hate depreciation.


Edited by Living Proof - 11/29/11 at 6:20am
post #20 of 26

I've had lots of good experiences both as a buyer and seller of good used skis...

post #21 of 26

I have sold many (understatement) pairs of skis here and on TGR. I have never had a complaint. I have also bought several used pairs here and through a used ski website.  I have never had a problem here but I did on the used ski website however, they took the ski back without any issues.  I think if you buy here, the chances of getting a bad deal are remote. Especially from a regular long-time poster. 

post #22 of 26

Nominated for understatement of the season...  smile.gif
 

 

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

I have sold many (understatement) pairs of skis here and on TGR. I have never had a complaint. I have also bought several used pairs here and through a used ski website.  I have never had a problem here but I did on the used ski website however, they took the ski back without any issues.  I think if you buy here, the chances of getting a bad deal are remote. Especially from a regular long-time poster. 



 


Edited by gregmerz - 11/29/11 at 8:54am
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

I find used prices here a little steep for pre-owned equipment 



Ya, you can't be in a hurry, gotta just snap it up when you see it.  I haven't paid over $250 including bindings and shipping for anything since 1980.  I've scored several pairs with less than 20 days on them, some new in plastic, all less than 5 years old when I snagged them.

Brand Model Length Type Waist Radius Bindings
Head iSuperShape WC 170 Race SL Sub 70 12 Head FF
K2 CaBrawler 179 Bump Ski Sub 70 21 Salomon
Nordica GSR  Doberman WC 181 Race GS Sub 70 21 Salomon
Elan M999 192 Powder 99 28 Rossi
RD Coyote HeliDog 183 Powder 91 32 Marker
K2 Public Enemy 179 Twin/All Mountain 80 19.5 Salomon
Nordica W80 178 MidFat 80 22 Marker

 

post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

I find used prices here a little steep for pre-owned equipment 



While that may be true, there are a couple rules of thumb

  • The prices usually reflect the care given to the equipment
  • Someone will usually pay the price if they really want it
  • You may be able to negotiate.


 

 

 

post #25 of 26

If you want to see overpriced equipment go look at the straight skis some people are selling on ebay. 200-300 bucks in the extreme cases for skis that are 15-20 years old. As always they think "I bought them for 600 new and only skied them two days a year"

post #26 of 26

Not a real horror story, but my friend (the guy who loved my K2 Lottas) was reading reviews, checking on-line ski shops, thinking and planning. An all-mountain ski, probably K2. And then - blam, he went and bought a used pair of Atomic GS 11. Only skied for one weekend (the seller had gone for a weekend ski-holiday, bought "the best" pair of skis in the shop and then found out they were too much for him). The skis weren't cheap (end of season deal of brand new pair of K2s he actually wanted would have been very similar) and the seller forgot to mention he had skied them all the way back to his car so the soles were horrible.

 

The real horror was of course that the skis were absolutely nothing like he wanted. A narrow ski strictly for hard, groomed slopes. Plus it's a ski that needs to be skied, if you start drinking coffee and reading the day's newspaper the skis very quickly get their own ideas of where to go (his interpretation of this was that this is a "beginner ski" and "lacks properties"). 400 euros completely wasted. He now skis Lottas and I take the Atomics out sometimes so they don't feel bad wink.gif

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