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First Ride with Rocker..and WOW!

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I had the opportunity to buy a set of 2011 K2 Pontoons for really cheap, and got to take them for my first rip yesterday. Holy batman what a difference, over my normal pair of skis ( 2009 Salomon Guns, No rocker, 130 / 96 / 124). There was between 6"- 14" of wind blown powder, and the pontoon's ripped. It didn't seem to matter if it was crusty or tracked out, I was in full control and fast. Hitting lips and drops were a blast, I don't think I have flown further and stuck so many landings. I started calling them my "hero" ski's because I had a feeling of invincibility on them.  However, once I hit the groomer it wasn't the best ride back to the lift.
In comparison, on my Guns I feel like a slow, out of control rookie when skiing everything except untouched powder.

 

My question is:

Where this was my first time riding fat rocker skis, is it fatness and rocker that make it so easy and fun or the actual Pontoon ski?

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I had the opportunity to buy a set of 2011 K2 Pontoons for really cheap, and got to take them for my first rip yesterday. Holy batman what a difference, over my normal pair of skis ( 2009 Salomon Guns, No rocker, 130 / 96 / 124). There was between 6"- 14" of wind blown powder, and the pontoon's ripped. It didn't seem to matter if it was crusty or tracked out, I was in full control and fast. Hitting lips and drops were a blast, I don't think I have flown further and stuck so many landings. I started calling them my "hero" ski's because I had a feeling of invincibility on them.  However, once I hit the groomer it wasn't the best ride back to the lift.
In comparison, on my Guns I feel like a slow, out of control rookie when skiing everything except untouched powder.

 

My question is:

Where this was my first time riding fat rocker skis, is it fatness and rocker that make it so easy and fun or the actual Pontoon ski?


Pon2oon is on the excessive end of fat. My new "any fresh" is 110, and i'm moving my 120 to deep days. I'm also of the opinion that unless your are heli or cat skiing full rocker is already outdated. a little camber underfoot with a healthy bit of splay in the tip and tails will serve you quite fine. Like so.

 

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post #3 of 9

That about sums it up.

 

Fat skis + rocker

-----------------------  =  Awesome

Powder

post #4 of 9

welcome to the evil dark side where only lazy skiers with poor skills venture....  yes, once here, you never go back.  icon14.gif

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Originally Posted by beaverbanker View Post

 

 

In comparison, on my Guns I feel like a slow, out of control rookie when skiing everything except untouched powder.

 

It must be post-Thanksgiving Monday.    All the people I would have expected to post about how badly the Gun FAILED in general are still sleeping, I see.

 

So, yeah.   Any modern rockered ski (possibly even Salomon) >>Gun.

post #6 of 9

My first rip on Pontoons was a lot like that.  I've been on board with powder skis since they first hit the market, I just fell in love with them.  Lazy indeed.  

 

Did a Pontoon demo for a powder day at Sugar Bowl.  Pretty quickly things get tracked out, and we go further and further into the woods to get the fresh tracks, then keep doing laps through the woods.  I quickly found that my tree skiing calculus - you know, where you look ahead a few turns to plot your line - got really compressed.  I could pop into turns and spaces where I never would have tried to go with my old 170 no sidecut Atomics, let alone my giant Sanouk.planks.  I could turn quicker and cleaner and with a lot less effort and thought.  And I was able to hit the last fresh turns and lines, places where no one else was even trying.  Found some awesome pillows, shit like that.

 

I've actually got a pair in the quiver, got them last year.  Incredible for powder, the best I've ridden.

 

But on any other conditions, they pretty much suck.  Like, they actually suck.  There's not an adjustment to make to your riding.  They just suck.  I need my best pow boards to be able to rando as well as pound groomers and whatever else after shit is tracked out and we're trekking around looking for stashes.

 

I'm going to quiver down pretty seriously, actually.  Sanouk and the Ponnies are going out the door and onto eBay.  The Atomics will stay since they were a first love and have a demo track and I hand them to intermediate or better ski pals who don't think they "like powder" or they "can't do powder".  I'll keep my Snowrangers for groomer-only days.  And for the rest?  I'm thinking Darkside or Sidestash.  Pretty stoked about those integrated skin features.  Stick some rando binders on there see how they fly.

 

 

 

 

post #7 of 9
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welcome to the evil dark side where only lazy skiers with poor skills venture....  yes, once here, you never go back.  icon14.gif



You forgot to insert the evil laugh.

 

Bwaaaaaaahahahaha!

post #8 of 9

Actually as far as the quiver goes, I already HAVE Darksides: an Elan board from the '99 I guess, when the radical new thing was sidecut.  Think SCX with 20mm boot riser.  Talk about turns!  I would ditch my poles and crank massive sweeping turns like a snowboarder - except, of course, that it took *skill*.

 

http://www.outdoorreview.com/cat/product-archives/ski-equipment/older-alpine-skis/twin-tip-freestyle/elan/darkside-m/prd_570_6498crx.aspx

 

That says twin tip.  They aren't twin tip at all.  IIRC just a stiff SCX Monoblock with cool graphics and a riser.

 

 

post #9 of 9

By the by I'd love to hear a comparison of the Darkside and Sidestash from folks who have skied both.  I have a feeling I'll end up on a lot of groomers just from being too lazy to go back down for my Snowrangers.  I'm super comfy on giant skis, though.  I bet both of them suck in bumps, but so do I!

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