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Looking to start getting into the back country. What is the criteria when picking a touring setup. I know to think about weight. But what makes a better.bc setup?
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Originally Posted by EasideSoulSkier View Post

...what makes a better.bc setup?


Avalanche training and knowledge, and an experienced partner.  

 

Other than that, it helps to have enough patience to search and read through the relevant posts in this forum.

post #3 of 19

A lot depends on where you will ski, how strong/young are you, what's your budget. I'm guessing the answer to question #1 is the Catskill's, Whites or Daks. If that's correct, wide powder skis would be over kill and a lot of skis would work find. A comfortable AT boot. Frischis are easier to master than the more expensive, lighter Dynafits. You should know about Avy awareness but if you keep away from Tuckerman and slide areas avalanches don't happen Out west it's a different game altogether.

post #4 of 19

Demo/borrow/steal/rent a few different setups before committing to one.

 

Find a mentor and take an AVY course.

ae.

post #5 of 19

Looks like EastsideSoulSkier  was just cubicle dreaming but really guys. How many avy courses do you think are offered in Manhattan each year? Maybe he should give up one of his two weeks a year ski vacation to sit in a class at a resort? A mentor is a good idea though. That's what I use in lieu of an avy course so far. And you have to seek out slides and skin for 4 hours to find a place for an avalanche to happen here in the east.

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How many avy courses do you think are offered in Manhattan each year? 

 

Ah, a google challenge.  And Google says: At least one:

http://www.rei.com/event/33102/session/41472

post #7 of 19
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Maybe he should give up one of his two weeks a year ski vacation to sit in a class at a resort?


Exactly why I designed my avy course to give up no ski time:

http://avycourse.blogspot.com/

 

post #8 of 19

I'm thinking about doing a bit of BC skiing this year as well. I'm a XC skier but also own a set of downhill equipment. I've looked around and realized that I can't afford new AT touring gear. Is there a way to use my downhill gear by buying something extra, some sort of adapter? What's the best way of acquiring the necessary gear gradually?

 

Thanks.

 

jack

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Originally Posted by jk603h View Post

I'm thinking about doing a bit of BC skiing this year as well. I'm a XC skier but also own a set of downhill equipment. I've looked around and realized that I can't afford new AT touring gear. Is there a way to use my downhill gear by buying something extra, some sort of adapter? 

 

Alpine Trekkers: http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/product/product.asp/CMP/KNC-97950/cmpn/97950/store/MG/item/212648/N/0

 

Those are kind of uncomfortable for touring, but they'll work.  

 

Don't forget skins - you'll need skins.

 

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What's the best way of acquiring the necessary gear gradually?

 

The best way to acquire gear gradually is gradually.  biggrin.gif  (Sorry, couldn't resist)  Get some backcountry buddies (you can get those at the avalanche training that you're going to take, right?) and tap into their knowledge and resources.  Just like all skiing boots are most important, so focus on those at first but see below about bindings.  

 

If you're at all serious about it, you'll outgrow the Trekkers really quickly, so be thinking which way you want to go with bindings.  I really like tech bindings like Dynafit, Plum, G3 Onyx, and La Sportiva, but those require boots with the proper fittings.  If you decide to go with plate bindings like Fritschis or Markers, then you won't need the tech fittings on your boots.  

 

But having a crew of friends (even online ones) that can help you decide on what's right for you is a good start.  

 

So, decide on what kind of bindings you'd like - there are endless discussions here as well as on TGR, wildsnow.com, straightchuter.com and other sites - then look for boots that fit and are compatible, then get the bindings, then get whatever skis that blow air up your skirt.  

post #10 of 19

Thanks Bob. I will try to demo Alpine Trekkers. That sounds like a good compromise for me now.

 

jack

post #11 of 19

Depending on the alpine bindings you own, MFD Alltime binding system might be a viable option...and better than the Trekkers.

 

MFD-Rossi-FKS-180-binding.png

post #12 of 19

^ Good point Terry, I had forgotten about those.

post #13 of 19

So some AT bindings such as Marker Baron can handle regular alpine boots? If I get one of these, I can re-use my current skis and boots and wait until later to get touring boots?

 

jack

post #14 of 19

 

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So some AT bindings such as Marker Baron can handle regular alpine boots? If I get one of these, I can re-use my current skis and boots and wait until later to get touring boots?

 

Yes.  Also Fritschi and Marker Tour bindings.  Silverettas too, if you find them.  Also the MFD's mentioned upthread.  

post #15 of 19

Thanks Bob. My Fischer skis don't seem compatible with the MFD's. I will look for a used pair of bindings you listed.

post #16 of 19

 

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Originally Posted by jk603h View Post

Thanks Bob. My Fischer skis don't seem compatible with the MFD's. I will look for a used pair of bindings you listed.


You'll be more comfortable if you go that way instead of the Alpine Trekkers.  They're not real easy to find - keep an eye on the TGR gear swap if you're a member there.  

 

post #17 of 19

Thank you Bob. You've been very helpful!

 

jack

post #18 of 19

I've been thinking of getting the Marker F12s, has anyone had any experience with these? I've read some threads over at TGR that state they are not all that durable. Would love to have your oppinion.

post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 

hah, funny how people make assumptions. Worley way to many to address........I started trying diff setups, got some stuff from Craiglist.  Been reading reading reading.  Staying out of Avy land all together.   I still need a course tho.  Thanks to all for the input!
 

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