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Hello, I am new around here and have spent quite a number of hours reading threads and reading reviews and at this point my brain is mush and my head is spinning so I thought I would ask a few opinions before I step away from it for the evening.

 

I am, by my own accounts, an intermediate skier.  I have been on and off the slopes since the age of 12 and I am 32 now.  For the last 5 years I have been skiing every season but I may only get out for 4 or 5 days in a season.  The second problem is that I live on the east coast of Virginia and only have Massanutten and Wintergreen resorts to play on regularly.  Everything I run is well groomed and I'm not comfortable on bumps at all.  I run blues at a faster pace than most with good lines and good control.  I run blacks at a slower pace and less smooth and will occasionally hit some small jumps in the terrain park.  It is not unheard of for me to eat it once or twice a day especially when I start getting tired and lazy, so I'm not sure if I really qualify as an intermediate.

 

I am currently using a pair of Elan x-carve skis that are about 8-10 years old and they suit me okay and are in good shape but I really feel like I could enjoy my days a little more with some newer technology. Because I only get out a few days a year I'm only looking to spend about $200-$250.  I have been searching craigslist and ebay but just don't know which skis really suit my ability.  I would love to have a list of some good skis that I could search around for that would help me become a better skier but won't be too much to enjoy. 

 

I found a really good deal on some 09 Elan 777's and some Volkl AC 2 Unlimited 72's in 177s but I keep finding conflicting reviews and suggestions for their level. Some say they are good intermediate to intermediate/advanced skis and then I have seen them classified as expert skis.  What do you all think of those two or any others that you could suggest?  Thank you in advance for any advice.  It looks like you all have a really nice forum going here.

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Hello, I am new around here and have spent quite a number of hours reading threads and reading reviews and at this point my brain is mush and my head is spinning so I thought I would ask a few opinions before I step away from it for the evening.

 

I am, by my own accounts, an intermediate skier.  I have been on and off the slopes since the age of 12 and I am 32 now.  For the last 5 years I have been skiing every season but I may only get out for 4 or 5 days in a season.  The second problem is that I live on the east coast of Virginia and only have Massanutten and Wintergreen resorts to play on regularly.  Everything I run is well groomed and I'm not comfortable on bumps at all.  I run blues at a faster pace than most with good lines and good control.  I run blacks at a slower pace and less smooth and will occasionally hit some small jumps in the terrain park.  It is not unheard of for me to eat it once or twice a day especially when I start getting tired and lazy, so I'm not sure if I really qualify as an intermediate.

 

I am currently using a pair of Elan x-carve skis that are about 8-10 years old and they suit me okay and are in good shape but I really feel like I could enjoy my days a little more with some newer technology. Because I only get out a few days a year I'm only looking to spend about $200-$250.  I have been searching craigslist and ebay but just don't know which skis really suit my ability.  I would love to have a list of some good skis that I could search around for that would help me become a better skier but won't be too much to enjoy. 

 

I found a really good deal on some 09 Elan 777's and some Volkl AC 2 Unlimited 72's in 177s but I keep finding conflicting reviews and suggestions for their level. Some say they are good intermediate to intermediate/advanced skis and then I have seen them classified as expert skis.  What do you all think of those two or any others that you could suggest?  Thank you in advance for any advice.  It looks like you all have a really nice forum going here.

In my not so humble opinion the AC 2 is way too low a level for you to get beyond your plateau, IMHO opinion.
 

You should get a subscription to Realskiers.com (I should be getting paid for all these recommendation, but really it's just good advice).  They have reviews going back to the last century.  Ability levels are there, but I say you should get something above your ability level.  There are some skis suited to all ability levels and they show that too.

 

Good hunting!

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In my not so humble opinion the AC 2 is way too low a level for you to get beyond your plateau, IMHO opinion.
 

You should get a subscription to Realskiers.com (I should be getting paid for all these recommendation, but really it's just good advice).  They have reviews going back to the last century.  Ability levels are there, but I say you should get something above your ability level.  There are some skis suited to all ability levels and they show that too.

 

Good hunting!



Thank you for the suggestion.  I will head over there and check it out.  I am surprised to hear you say that about the AC 2's because I was thinking they were above my ability level from what I had found so far.  Do you think intermediate is a realistic judgement of my ability or am I being a little over zealous?

 

Does anyone else have any opinions?  This AC 2 auction will be ending before too long and it seems like a really good deal but not if they aren't going to be good skis for me.

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Forget skis.  The single most important thing you can do to improve your skiing is getting boots that actually fit your feet the way they are supposed to fit.  If your current boots were not fitted properly to your feet, you can save yourself a lot of hassle by just setting fire to a pile of money.  Seriously, I did that for years and always wondered why my new hot skis didn't help me ski better.  The first day I skied in a pair of properly fitted boots my skiing improved immediately and dramatically and has continued to improve.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wiki that describes how boots should be fitted, then check the list of fitters.  Do whatever it takes to get boots from a good experienced fitter.  Trust me on this, you won't regret it.

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Forget skis.  The single most important thing you can do to improve your skiing is getting boots that actually fit your feet the way they are supposed to fit.  If your current boots were not fitted properly to your feet, you can save yourself a lot of hassle by just setting fire to a pile of money.  Seriously, I did that for years and always wondered why my new hot skis didn't help me ski better.  The first day I skied in a pair of properly fitted boots my skiing improved immediately and dramatically and has continued to improve.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wiki that describes how boots should be fitted, then check the list of fitters.  Do whatever it takes to get boots from a good experienced fitter.  Trust me on this, you won't regret it.

 

 

Yes I was told that same thing years back when I bought my Elan skis that I am using now.  I bought a pair of good boots and they fit perfectly.  I can ski in them all day without any discomfort and my feet stay nice and warm.  They provide great support on ski as well but thank you for the suggestion.
 

 

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Even if you did overestimate your ability, the AC2 is not advanced enough for you to advance.  (again in my not so humble ;) humble opinion.

 

Re: Boots, (also imho) you should not be able to move your feet without moving the skis.  Your heel should not lift out of the heel pocket.  You should not be able to twist your feet inside the boots. 

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Even if you did overestimate your ability, the AC2 is not advanced enough for you to advance.  (again in my not so humble ;) humble opinion.

 

Re: Boots, (also imho) you should not be able to move your feet without moving the skis.  Your heel should not lift out of the heel pocket.  You should not be able to twist your feet inside the boots. 



Okay so I'll pass on the AC2.  What skis are in the ballpark of what I'm looking for.  Every review I found on the AC2 says it is not a beginner or intermediate ski.  In fact they say it is for advanced skiers only so know I am very very confused.

post #8 of 11

how much do you weight?

post #9 of 11
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175-180 and 5' 11" tall.

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No ideas huh?

post #11 of 11

Volkl: Tiger Shark, AC30

 

Fischer:  WC SC (for improving), WC RC (for having fun at higher speeds than the SC carves clean turns at).

 

Head: Supershape (the regular one or the chip one, not the magnum, speed, or any other variation), any older Head xrc 1100 or 1000 that has "SW" in the name, but not 800 or lower number.

 

Dynastar: Contact Groove or Cross (cross with longer turn radius is better for high speeds, Groove with shourter turn radius is better learning tool)

 

Kastle: RXSL or  RX12

 

Atomic: D2 VF 75.

 

 

 

 

 

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