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Black Diamond Factor as Everyday Area Boot?

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

I am considering the Black Diamond Factor as a strictly alpine on area boot with just alpine bindings.  I have other AT boots for the backcounty. 

 

Are they up to the task of hard on area use, including lots of bump skiing?

 

What are the serious drawbacks (if any) of using the Factor over a straight alpine boot?

 

Any thoughts on the differences between the 130 and 110?

 

Any info or insight would be appreciated.  Thanks.  MF

post #2 of 7

sure,  BUT..

1)  the vibram soles might not release with all alpine bindings

2)  the walk mode is added extra price, weight, etc.

3)  why not just get a alpine boot, that might be cheaper.

4)  some of the BD liners are not great.

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

sure,  BUT..

1)  the vibram soles might not release with all alpine bindings

They come with alpine binding compatible blocks on the heel and toe, which are suppose to work with all alpine bindings.

 

2)  the walk mode is added extra price, weight, etc.

The weight and extra price are not a big deal, and it would be nice for hiking on area, and just getting to and from the parking lot, lodge, etc. to have a walk mode and some grippage.

 

3)  why not just get a alpine boot, that might be cheaper.

 After years of skiing Flexons and Kyptons I'm addicted to a progressive flex, but have fit issue that cannot be resolved with a 3-piece shell.  The Fator is suppose to have a progress flex, and I have BD Push tele boots that fit great, so I am leaning towards their boots.

 

4)  some of the BD liners are not great.

They reworked the liners on the new Factors and they are just like what I have in my tele boots, which I like.

 

My concern is if they will ski and hold up as well as an alpine boot of similar price.  If you know of any good progressive120 flex boots with 2-piece shells, I would be happy to consider them. So far my search has not turned up much.



 

post #4 of 7

if they flex right, and that is the biggest issue, go for it.  Sounds like the rest will work fine.

 

progressive is a personal thing.  It depends on your ankle bone alignment and the boots pivots lining up well (I think)  just trying a bunch on, and flexign them, is the best bet I think

post #5 of 7

It sounds like it would work fine, however, the new Factor 130 has certainly not got what i'd call a "Progressive flex", I reckon by the sounds of things you've already made up your mind. The Dynafit Titan is pretty much the same clog design as a full tilt, the walk and ski mode will remove what we call "progressive flex, a metal bar not really having much elasticity, but a way better option than the Factor for flex and a better liner too.

post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

No, I have not made up my mind, I'm just searching for a good alternative to a 3-piece shell boot.  I want something in the 120 flex range that has a longer progressive flex.  Unfortunately, the manufacturers do not give you very specific info beyond the flex number, and those are not all that accurate.  I need a 2-piece shell but want the 3-piece type flex.  Am I chasing a fantasy?  I thought maybe a 2-piece shell AT boot might give me the compromise I am looking for. 

 

What I really want is a good alpine boot that does not have the on/off feeling flex of all the top line boots I have ever used. Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Fortunately, I have the ability to try on most models of boots because of the multiple stores in my area.  I am just trying to limit my search to some likely candidates.

post #7 of 7

sounds like you need to try on a bunch of boots, and see what flexes right for you. proggressive flex, is a personal thing, not a measurement..

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