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post #1 of 166
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basically there are alot(well really one) hater on here that never ski the East Coast and constantly slam it. So EC guys this is your place to show how bad the EC sucks.

 

 

first 2 minutes are all stowe

 

http://www.meatheadfilms.com/blogs/bd/2011/08/22/.DQT.Prime-Cutlets.DQT.-Episode-2%3A-Backwoods-New-England/

 

 

whats really funny if we get enough post everytime someone googles East Coast Skiing suck they will directed here.

 

 

 

post #2 of 166

I never ski the East (anymore), and I slam it. But I've always thought of myself as more of a hatter. I just like hats. 

post #3 of 166

East Coast skiing sucks today. That's for sure.

post #4 of 166
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East Coast skiing sucks today. That's for sure.



but the riding is good.

 

Hey I take all the bumps I can. My real Goal here is when you google "east coast skiing sucks" is it for to come here.

 

 

post #5 of 166

Stowe?

post #6 of 166

Maybe people prefer higher, drier snow, not having to ski between deciduous trees, seeing for miles and miles, sunshine, powder, the most beautiful mountains anywhere, couloirs, cliffs, the wild wild west, etc.

 

The west has so much to offer that the east doesn't.  That doesn't mean east coast skiing sucks, but it means western skiing is better.

post #7 of 166
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Maybe people prefer higher, drier snow, not having to ski between deciduous trees, seeing for miles and miles, sunshine, powder, the most beautiful mountains anywhere, couloirs, cliffs, the wild wild west, etc.

 

The west has so much to offer that the east doesn't.  That doesn't mean east coast skiing sucks, but it means western skiing is better.



I do not know how snow fall is higher maybe you could explain that me. When it does snow here its alot drier than alot of place out west. Which drier snow BTW is not always a bad thing.

 

http://gator1314.hostgator.com/~bestsnow/snoqlnet.htm.

 

Most people who 'do not like" to ski between trees can not. Just like moguls I have never met someone who was capable and did not like it.

 

Sunshine - no contest there most of the sunny places do not get any more snow.

 

Powder is myth anywhere unless your get up early, know the place, and or are willing to work for it. More snow doesnt necessarily mean more powder skiing.

 

Beauty is the eye of the beholder

 

couliors and cliffs are not something that is strictly a Rocky Mountain attribute

 

Ill tell you one thing the groomer skiing back east sucks compared to the groomer skiing out west.

 

oh yeah every post I do is going to have picture of the mythical east coast powder that doesnt exist.

 

Powder, Sunshine, cliffs, widely spaced pine trees

 

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Uh ... wait ... yep ... fish on!!

post #9 of 166
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I do not know how snow fall is higher maybe you could explain that me. When it does snow here its alot drier than alot of place out west. Which drier snow BTW is not always a bad thing.

 

http://gator1314.hostgator.com/~bestsnow/snoqlnet.htm.

 

Most people who 'do not like" to ski between trees can not. Just like moguls I have never met someone who was capable and did not like it.

 

Sunshine - no contest there most of the sunny places do not get any more snow.

 

Powder is myth anywhere unless your get up early, know the place, and or are willing to work for it. More snow doesnt necessarily mean more powder skiing.

 

Beauty is the eye of the beholder

 

couliors and cliffs are not something that is strictly a Rocky Mountain attribute

 

Ill tell you one thing the groomer skiing back east sucks compared to the groomer skiing out west.

 

oh yeah every post I do is going to have picture of the mythical east coast powder that doesnt exist.

 

Powder, Sunshine, cliffs, widely spaced pine trees

 

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Please reread my post.  Do you know what a deciduous tree is?  Also, are you familiar with the concept of elevation above sea level?  An eastern resort could never have a prayer of getting 600 inches in a year.

 

 

What is the point of a thread like this anyway?  Nobody's opinion is going to be swayed by an online discussion about the topic where everyone just inserts their own opinion and defends it.

 

 

Do you honestly think someone who dislikes eastern skiing is going to have an epiphany after reading your arguments and change their opinion?  And even if they did, why would it matter to you?

post #10 of 166
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Please reread my post.  Do you know what a deciduous tree is?  Also, are you familiar with the concept of elevation above sea level?  An eastern resort could never have a prayer of getting 600 inches in a year.

 

 

What is the point of a thread like this anyway?  Nobody's opinion is going to be swayed by an online discussion about the topic where everyone just inserts their own opinion and defends it.

 

 

Do you honestly think someone who dislikes eastern skiing is going to have an epiphany after reading your arguments and change their opinion?  And even if they did, why would it matter to you?




lol what does elevation have anything to with anything?  their are entire resort that sit above Snowbird, and I doubt they are anymore rad because they are higher in elevation.  Aleska Resort in alaska has to be uber lame then since its top elevation is lower than the top of Mount Manisfield.

 

600 no but then again most western resorts can get to that number. Especially the one you like.

 

No I do not think anything is going to change. I just want google's top result for east coast skiing sucks to come here. Thanks for helping

post #11 of 166
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600 no but then again most western resorts can get to that number. Especially the one you like.

 


My favorite resort is Jackson Hole... are you saying it sucks because it doesn't average 600 inches?   eek.gif

 

Wow, BW, that is quite a bold statement.

post #12 of 166

BwPA liking that music on the East Coast edit. I also like hats.

 

 

Edited by 2meke - 11/18/11 at 11:09am
post #13 of 166
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My favorite resort is Jackson Hole... are you saying it sucks because it doesn't average 600 inches?   eek.gif

 

Wow, BW, that is quite a bold statement.



a bold statement made by you. 

 

 

 

post #14 of 166

BW, good luck finding IN-BOUNDS lift-served terrain east coast that rivals the same out west.  Also, good luck finding a BOWL in the east (that is lift-served).

 

 

Most good stuff out east is closed anyway (like The Slides at whiteface) due to lack of snow.

 

 

Snow is good.

 

 

No east coast places average 400+

 

 

 

 

Just admit it, most people aren't GNAR enough as you to get the goods out east, or enjoy them for what they offer the level 10 individual.  A guy at a hotel in Stowe was all hard-ass about how he was better than western skiers because he regularly shreds the "Front Four" in ice, and they "can't do that out west."  Yeah, blah blah throw your stoke.  IMO, west is better.

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but the riding is good.

 

Hey I take all the bumps I can. My real Goal here is when you google "east coast skiing sucks" is it for to come here.

 

 

 

Allow me to assist:

 

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Let's see how smart Google is.  beercheer.gif The 25 page monster that currently takes the top spot is going to be hard to beat though. We are at #2 if you put "east coast skiing sucks" in quotes.

 

On topic:

 

I am actually very impressed by the vertical at certain east coast areas. I had no idea before I had read some other threads talking about the availability of good terrain in the east. The sheer acreage is still lacking. And there's less snow than out west in most cases. Of course when a storm hits there's going to be good pow, but aren't days like that fewer and further between out east?

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BW, good luck finding IN-BOUNDS lift-served terrain east coast that rivals the same out west.  Also, good luck finding a BOWL in the east (that is lift-served).

 

 

Most good stuff out east is closed anyway (like The Slides at whiteface) due to lack of snow.

 

 

Snow is good.

 

 

No east coast places average 400+

 

 

 

 

Just admit it, most people aren't GNAR enough as you to get the goods out east, or enjoy them for what they offer the level 10 individual.  A guy at a hotel in Stowe was all hard-ass about how he was better than western skiers because he regularly shreds the "Front Four" in ice, and they "can't do that out west."  Yeah, blah blah throw your stoke.  IMO, west is better.


 


the slides can only be closed  because its inbounds.

 

So on one hand your saying you have to be GNAR and Level 10 to enjoy the good on the other hand your saying the guy in the hotel is better than you most likely. I would pay good money to watch you ski Goat or Starr. 

 

I am not really gnar at all, I just in better shape.  I actually avoid the front 4 most of the time because the conditions there truly do suck.

 

everything I have shown so far was serviced by lifts. This doesnt even require any hiking and its on the backside of Okemo

 

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If she can ski it so can you right?

 

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Let's see how smart Google is.  beercheer.gif The 25 page monster that currently takes the top spot is going to be hard to beat though. We are at #2 if you put "east coast skiing sucks" in quotes.

 

On topic:

 

I am actually very impressed by the vertical at certain east coast areas. I had no idea before I had read some other threads talking about the availability of good terrain in the east. The sheer acreage is still lacking. And there's less snow than out west in most cases. Of course when a storm hits there's going to be good pow, but aren't days like that fewer and further between out east?




you would think it would be fewer and further between. My goal this year is to ski powder 50 days outta of the year. that is 1/3 days for the season and take pictures/video everyday. I think I did last year and I have proof but not really. My bet is that I will ski more powder days this year than anyone else on this board. If someone think they can out do me, I say prove and we will settle once and for in all.

 

IF someone from the west want to be up to challenge. Do it. You already have a month head start.

 

From FIS.com halloween 2011

 

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post #19 of 166

Hey Bush, didn't you get kicked out of ALL of Utah?

 

Is that why you went back east?

 

90% of the people I ski with are from VT, NH, and ME and they assure me that there is no

need to experience east coast skiing.

 

I am just going to take their word for it.

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the slides can only be closed  because its inbounds.

 

So on one hand your saying you have to be GNAR and Level 10 to enjoy the good on the other hand your saying the guy in the hotel is better than you most likely. I would pay good money to watch you ski Goat or Starr. 

 

I am not really gnar at all, I just in better shape.  I actually avoid the front 4 most of the time because the conditions there truly do suck.

 

everything I have shown so far was serviced by lifts. This doesnt even require any hiking and its on the backside of Okemo

 

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If she can ski it so can you right?

 

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Great, next time I'm out there I'll ski Goat (which I already have), and you give a free level three lesson and/or tour of Stowe's sidecountry.

 

 

Now when you only MTB, this is a stretch.  I spend 4-5 days/week in the gym.

 

 

This is the epitome of why east coast skiing has been said to "suck."

 

 

Yeah but who says I have any interest in going back there, or find the scawny leaf-less hardwoods a pleasant backdrop for that low-quality snow that's being hacked through.


Edited by Vitamin Ski - 11/18/11 at 4:52pm
post #21 of 166

cool gulley in the pictures of Okemo


Edited by davluri - 11/18/11 at 5:47pm
post #22 of 166

I ski in Central New York. Our ski areas are small but close by. I live 5 miles from my local mountain, so skiing is convenient and fun. In Central New York we get the lake effect snows off of lake Ontario so the snow conditions are usually fairly good and it snows frequently. We average around 150 inches of snow each winter.

 

Since I'm retired I can ski where and whenever I want. This let's me get out early and ski the fresh snow from the night before! It can be anywhere from groomed to a light dusting to a few feet of snow. Catch the morning fresh es and then I'm out of there by 1 pm! roflmao.gifI get in about  30 to 40 days each winter. It keeps me young!!

 

East coast skiing might suck but it's irrelevant! It's either ski here at home or not ski at all. Not skiing is unthinkable! Some day I might get out west and ski your nirvana snow and mountains. But until than, I'm getting time on my boards, improving my skiing skills and hardening up my legs and having a beer with my buddies. Doesn't get any better than that!

 

So you guys have at it!  duel.gif

post #23 of 166

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the skiing at Baker was better today than anywhere in the east was.

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Great, next time I'm out there I'll ski Goat (which I already have), and you give a free level three lesson and/or tour of Stowe's sidecountry.

 

 

Now when you only MTB, this is a stretch.  I spend 4-5 days in the gym.

 

 

This is the epitome of why east coast skiing has been said to "suck."

 

 

Yeah but who says I have any interest in going back there, or find the scawny leaf-less hardwoods a pleasant backdrop for that low-quality snow that's being hacked through.


 

i said better shape  generally not really against you. It going to be fun if I ever get chance to ski with ya :)

 

you would never give it though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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you would never give it though.

 

 

 

I would never give what?

 

 

If you forgot a "t" and meant I'd never give any thought to going down a narrow alley of snow on the backside of a mountain with no lift at the bottom... well then no, I probably wouldn't give that much thought.  If I ski in Vermont at least I know what's available.  I'm not one to milk the backcountry for extra goodies.  It's like if you are going to a restaurant that serves USDA Choice beef and ribeye is what's on the menu, why pressure them to cook you a filet mignon... it's still CHOICE beef, even if it is the best cut.

 

East = Choice beef, any cut.

 

West = Prime beef.


Edited by Vitamin Ski - 11/18/11 at 7:16pm
post #26 of 166

Well, I grew up in NJ and my family started ski trips to VT when I was young and I have skied a lot of mountains on a lot of good days.

 

But I never knew what was going on until, at age 19 I packed my trusty Mazda and drove to Summit County CO, got a job cooking at Keystone and became a die hard A Basin junkie.  I followed plenty of lunatics into some very scary predicaments off the grid (usually after spending a few minutes in the log cabin under the Pali chair ;-)  and can tell you that I have never had my sphincter pucker up like that on the east coast - EVER.

 

It all boils down to what your definitions are.  If somebody thinks Goat is steep, for example, then I immediately dismiss them as someone that doesn't know what they are talking about. 

 

I have never had to jump turn sections for survival on Goat.  And on a powder day a true intermediate can ski Goat.  Goat is tough when its boiler plate between bumps created by people that can't ski and then it is difficult for the best of us.

 

There is stuff in bounds at Crested Butte, A Basin, Jackson Hole, and Squaw that blows that photo of Stowe sidecountry away.

 

Once again, depends on what you can ski.

 

However, I scored a great powder day at Stowe last season and it was absolutely incredible.  BUT - the same day at Snowbird would have been MORE epic.  If it is so epic how come the Chickering-Aers (spelling) don't still live at MRG?  Granted, MRG, is the absolute best place to build your chops on the east coast hands down.  But when you get THAT good, you gotta go west, and that is the bottom line.

post #27 of 166

The east doesn't suck all the time, just most of the time.  I grew up there.

 

 Post a picture from Stowe today. Here's what we had in my neighborhood yesterday, November 18th:

 

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post #28 of 166
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The east doesn't suck all the time, just most of the time.  I grew up there.

 

 Post a picture from Stowe today. Here's what we had in my neighborhood yesterday, November 18th:

 

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Can I post one of my lawn? It's almost the same.

 

edit: just to be clear, it's almost the same as the mountain, not your lawn!


Edited by epic - 11/19/11 at 7:56am
post #29 of 166

It's that jetstream up by Oregon Washington pattern again. you wouldn't consider  letting that slip down about 500 miles would you? we're not gettin' any in norcal. that's kinda' typical up to a point, but it's time for winter to start now.

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 Not skiing is unthinkable!

 

 

 

 

Bingo!

 

If I lived in the East I would totally ski there. But I don't live there.  And I'm skiing powder here today.  So....

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