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post #1 of 27
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Hey everyone,

I'm trying to plan a trip to Snowbird and maybe Jackson Hole. I've been reading how tough JH is. I'm an intermediate who has finished all the blue trails at Whistler but couldn't do the blacks there. I'm not great on steeps, but graduated to longer skis this season that will hopefully help me with that. Do you think I'll have a tough time on the blues at JH and/or Snowbird/Alta? Sounds like JH's characteristics is steep and demanding. Is Snowbird/Alta the same or have more diverse terrain?

Thanks all

post #2 of 27

Any particular reason why you zero'd in on those resorts?  

post #3 of 27
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Originally Posted by Blikkem View Post

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to plan a trip to Snowbird and maybe Jackson Hole. I've been reading how tough JH is. I'm an intermediate who has finished all the blue trails at Whistler but couldn't do the blacks there. I'm not great on steeps, but graduated to longer skis this season that will hopefully help me with that. Do you think I'll have a tough time on the blues at JH and/or Snowbird/Alta? Sounds like JH's characteristics is steep and demanding. Is Snowbird/Alta the same or have more diverse terrain?

Thanks all


This will sound like I'm trying to steer you away from Snowbird and to Jackson Hole, but I've skied a great deal at both resorts and I believe that Snowbird is MORE difficult for an intermediate skier than Jackson Hole.  The runs you might enjoy at SB are pretty limited.

 

Snowbird's next-door neighbor, Alta, would be a far better choice, imo.

 

post #4 of 27
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Any particular reason why you zero'd in on those resorts?  



I'm trip planning a couple of days in Vegas and then taking our time driving to Salt Lake City (2 days), from there I have 6 days to play. Those two are a curiosity for me since I hear about them a lot. I'll be going before Christmas so not sure if Park City will have enough snow by then. I explained my skill level, my gf is a bit better then me at the steep stuff but when I do the flatter wood runs she's cursing me all the way. I'm open to suggestions.

post #5 of 27
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This will sound like I'm trying to steer you away from Snowbird and to Jackson Hole, but I've skied a great deal at both resorts and I believe that Snowbird is MORE difficult for an intermediate skier than Jackson Hole.  The runs you might enjoy at SB are pretty limited.

 

Snowbird's next-door neighbor, Alta, would be a far better choice, imo.

 


Thanks, Yes I've been reading that Alta may be better for intermediates. So Alta should be on the list. One of the problem we have is a low attention span and could get into trouble seeking out something new. So if there is enough for our skill level, less of a chance we end up killing ourselves. :)

 


Edited by Blikkem - 11/17/11 at 2:52pm
post #6 of 27

Honestly I'd say if you have some flexibility, go with where the snow is. Check the weather and snow reports for the week before you leave. But for an intermediate skier I would definitely say Alta is a great time! Its an awesome mountain and honestly Utah is probably the best snow in the country. Also there are tons of mountains all around Park City with all ranges of difficulty and terrain, so if you have a few days and do (on the unlikely chance) find yourself bored at Alta, there is a plethora of other areas to discover.

post #7 of 27

Lot of threads on this, at least for Snowbird. In fact, another similar thread going on now in the resorts forum. Search "Snowbird, intermediates" in all forums and you'll find a list of threads that will give you some good details.

post #8 of 27

I don't know...for intermediates with a "low attention span", shouldn't they be looking more like Park City with all its conveniently located groomer terrain -- Deer Valley, PC itself, and The Canyons?  I love Alta, but once you're there you're there, and I personally agree about Snowbird being a bit much.  Plus Park City has more town going on.  

post #9 of 27
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I don't know...for intermediates with a "low attention span", shouldn't they be looking more like Park City with all its conveniently located groomer terrain -- Deer Valley, PC itself, and The Canyons?  I love Alta, but once you're there you're there, and I personally agree about Snowbird being a bit much.  Plus Park City has more town going on.  



Yeah, that's a really good call. I was only saying Atla because he mentioned it specifically. But you are right, PC and Deer Valley (if you want the bouginess of it) probably have even more of that terrain plus fun things other than skiing.

post #10 of 27

Also, to the OP, you do realize that Jackson Hole is in Wyoming, not Utah?

post #11 of 27

If you're coming up from Vegas, consider a stop at Brian Head. It's in southern Utah and not that far off the Interstate. It's smaller than other UT resorts, but it seems to have better early season storms (at least some years). It's also across the highway from Cedar Breaks National Monument, which is sort of like a mini Bryce Canyon--some pretty neat mountain-meets-desert scenery.

 

I've been wanting to get there for years, and if I was coming up from Vegas, I'd definitely check it out for a day.

post #12 of 27

If you had trouble with the single blacks at whistler, I would not recommend Snowbird. Some of the blues at SB are just as hard as the single blacks at whistler. Like Dave Murray, Raven or black portion of Tokum. which don't actually seem that hard. but if you thought they seemed hard, I would steer away from SB until those seem fine.   

post #13 of 27

If you end up deciding to ski the resorts closest to park City ... Unless you like riding tailouts all day long, avoid PC. Deer Valley has much more interesting terrain, in my opinion.

 

 

post #14 of 27

Yeah Greenlander, Deer Valley is sorta growing on me too.  I really like the new Lady Morgan area, and might try the parking area at the far east end for a quick getaway to Wyoming next time (otherwise it's a hump to get to Kimble Jct.).

post #15 of 27

If you are coming up from Vegas then I would definately look at Utah resorts in stead of Jackson Hole.  Even the Idaho resorts are going to be much closer the Jackson Hole is.  The main reason is that the drive from Vegas to SLC is maybe 6 hours (good weather at least) and you're looking at 10 hours or more to Jackson.  The trip to SLC is all interstate, the roads from SLC to Jackson is all smaller roads.  So if you happen to get good snow to ski in thats going to me really bad roads to drive on.

 

Although I do love Jackson, its my favorite resort so far.  With a 6 day trip I would probably rather hit 3-4 different resorts in the SLC area (easy to do from the same hotel) then going up to Jackson.

post #16 of 27

personally i think jackson hole is a fantastic resort for intermediates. i went there last year for a 6 day trip because of its reputation for expert terrain, but was surprised to find such a wide variety of intermediate terrain there also. id highly recommend it for somebody who is a solid intermediate and perhaps wants to dabble in some more challenging terrain on occasion, but also likes good fall line skiing on groomers. The gondola, casper and apres vous chairs offer some excellent intermediate runs. I think even taking the tram up to rendez vous bowl is not out of the range of an aspiring intermediate

 

i definitely wouldnt be put off by the reputation... jackson is great for any intermediate skier looking to improve

 

no idea about snowbird - havent skied there

post #17 of 27

It really doesn't make sense to make the drive all the way up from SLC to Jackson when there is so much good skiing right THERE within an hour or two.  If he has to pass Jackson anyway on the way to somewhere else, then that's another thing.  

post #18 of 27
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Thanks for all the suggestions. So I've decided to do 9 day ski trip instead of trying to split it with Vegas, can do that in a long weekend. I understand Jackson is in Wyoming and was thinking of taking two days to go there. I realize now how much there is to do in Utah. There's probably enough skiing to be had exploring PC, DV, Canyon and Alta to last the 9 days. I'll save JH for when I can actually take advantage of more of the mountain. I've been looking to stay around the park city area and drive everywhere. I'm realizing that the cost is not too different then Whistler. Lodging really ranges and the lift tickets at Park City is 4 days for $400?!?! Whistler for the same dates are 4 days for $361. I guess I have to find a discount somewhere. 

post #19 of 27

Discount tickets at ski shops in slc or costco.

post #20 of 27

The place I stayed had some kind of discount with the room, but that was maybe 10 years ago.  

post #21 of 27
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Discount tickets at ski shops in slc or costco.



Also liftopia.

post #22 of 27

If I was doing a 9 day trip I'd go to SLC, and break it up with a 3 day trip with 2 days skiing at JH and one at Grand Targhee.  Also, regarding where to stay.  If you stay in Sandy/Midvale you can get a hotel for $60/nt which includes breakfast.  The best deal on lift tickets would be at your hotel desk. (not sure about PC resorts though) When in SLC, ski Snowbird, Alta, Solitude, Snowbasin and a Park City Resort, or skip Solitude and ski two PC resorts.  Saving Snowbird until you get on your feet a bit.  What could be better than that?

post #23 of 27
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Great! I'll check liftopia, hotel and ski shops in SLC. Gotta find a Costco member to take me there.

I also read a bit about Kimball Junction for reasonable lodgings. Anyone know of anything around Deer Park? The search begins.

post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by Blikkem View Post

Thanks for all the suggestions. So I've decided to do 9 day ski trip instead of trying to split it with Vegas, can do that in a long weekend. I understand Jackson is in Wyoming and was thinking of taking two days to go there. I realize now how much there is to do in Utah. There's probably enough skiing to be had exploring PC, DV, Canyon and Alta to last the 9 days. I'll save JH for when I can actually take advantage of more of the mountain. I've been looking to stay around the park city area and drive everywhere. I'm realizing that the cost is not too different then Whistler. Lodging really ranges and the lift tickets at Park City is 4 days for $400?!?! Whistler for the same dates are 4 days for $361. I guess I have to find a discount somewhere. 


I'm far from a UT expert but there is an amazing amount of skiing within relatively easy driving distance. We've visited Snowbasin, Powder Mountain, The Canyons, Deer Valley, Alta, Snowbird, and Solitude. You won't get bored with the skiing in 9 days. It's all really good. We've stayed in PC and really enjoyed the town. We've also stayed down in Sandy and ... Very hard to beat SLC and the suburbs for value. You can find great deals on lodging. But I didn't really feel like we were in a resort. Where we stayed in Sandy there were strip malls, car dealerships, chain restaurants, etc. Nothing bad and certainly many options for dining and shopping. But just didn't feel like a vacation destination.

 

post #25 of 27

I've been to Snowbird once and Jackson Hole twice.   I am confused by those who say that there isn't a lot of intermediate terrain at Snowbird?  Its chock full of it (especially mineral basin) and same with Jackson Hole.

 

While some of the blues may be steeper than blues at other resorts.... they are usually wide enough for you to tack somewhat sideways on them.

 

Dunno... but then again I snowboard.... and if the terrain gets too bone-breakingly dangerous to ride, then I just side-slip it which makes the skiers love me and my kind even more ;-)

post #26 of 27
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So I just got back from Salt Lake City and I was able to go to Canyon, Alta, Brighton and Solitude and loved it. Although there wasn't much snow on Canyon/Park City side of things, Brighton and Solitude got about 5 inches while I was there and the night skiing at Brighton was loads of fun and no lines. I had no problems with any of their intermediate trails, Alta tested me a bit and forced me off trail at times for softer conditions, I can say I'm better for it. Love that there are so many places to explore even for an intermediate like me. I did see a difference in trail conditions at Alta where they don't allow snowboarders. I've never really had a problem with boarders even want to try it myself someday and love watching a good boarder do his/her thing, but there were less dead icy spots where one of my legs fly out from under me all of a sudden and much smoother. Maybe that won't be a problem when I become a better skier. I'll definitely be back to Utah soon. I was saying to my friends that if I lived 40 minutes away from all these challenging mountains, I'd be there every weekend and an expert in no time. There are also a range of hotels and condos to fit anyone's budget. But I have to say, nothing beats the scenery at the top of Whistler for me so far.

post #27 of 27
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Thanks everyone for all their great input it helped me so much in deciding where to go. I also looked so smart in front of my friends telling them what I learned here. Don't worry, I gave you guys full credit. Thanks again.

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