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post #1 of 20
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Hello,

I going on an extended work vacation to Vail, CO (8weeks) this year where I can ski 5 hours a day or so .... ;-) I only have skis for the European Ski autobahn (all terrain racer carver for groomed slops) .... SO I want to buy a new pair for the powder days of Vail.

I am 191 cm or 6.266 feet and 235 pounds....

I think i ski decent but not cracy like some locals in Co. If I don't play stupid and to the fact there is little drinking in the US I may bee crash once a day. 

can you please help.

thanks

jr

post #2 of 20

Did you take english courses through the BWPA correspondence course? 

 

 

post #3 of 20

I'd get something at least 110 under the waist in a 190+.   For me my 194 XXL's would be perfect, but I'm a lot smaller.  Vail gets lots of small snowfalls and a few big ones, so you need a high speed crud buster more than a deep powder stick.  Vails not very steep, so you want something with a little girth for the big days or you'll be bogging down.

post #4 of 20

OK, seriously, go out there and demo, there is no need to buy anything before you get there and you will be able to ski a bunch of different skis and then decide for yourself which is best. 

post #5 of 20

Sure, if you have the ability to demo lots of different skis for free, in the conditions that you want them to excel?  But skiing only three and then taking the demo fee's off of list price?

I know what type of skis I prefer, I buy them at least 50% off and get rid of the ones I don't like?

post #6 of 20

this person clearly does not.  Why only 3?

 

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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

Sure, if you have the ability to demo lots of different skis for free, in the conditions that you want them to excel?  But skiing only three and then taking the demo fee's off of list price?

I know what type of skis I prefer, I buy them at least 50% off and get rid of the ones I don't like?



 

post #7 of 20

At 235lbs. the OP needs to buy a strong ski that he will not break or wear out prematurely. So, look for a wood core ski with torsion box or ideally double torsion box core. Also skis with a metal top sheet are also usually stronger as are laminate vs cap ski construction.

 

I weigh 210 lbs and my every day ski is a 84mm wide Nordica Hot Rod Jet Fuel 178cm. My powder ski is a Elan 888, 89mm wide. Both meet the above criteria. Imo over 100mm wide is great if at times you want to ride on top of the powder at high speed and deeper in the pow at lower speed. However, I am old school in powder and prefer to slow down and crank turns more like they ski the figure 8 competitions. I love to $ sign some new schooler wide ski or snow boarder straight line track.lol

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this person clearly does not.  Why only 3?

 



 



That what most shops will apply toward the retail purchase price.

post #9 of 20

84 & 89mm isn't much breath for your quiver, but If that works for you, great!  I would prefer something in the 80's and another around 110 or even fatter. just to cover the deep days a little better?

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this is why you need to figure out what you like.  Most here would say they prefer modern, easy to ski desgins. some like danoT like to make a lot of turns and others prefer wider high G rounded pow turns.  Niether is right or wrong it's just preference although modern powder skis are easier to ski on and require less energy. Modern wider ski's also let you ski terrain that is not as steep due to the float whereas skinny skis sink and wont' allow you to keep enough speed to get through the pow. 
 

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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

At 235lbs. the OP needs to buy a strong ski that he will not break or wear out prematurely. So, look for a wood core ski with torsion box or ideally double torsion box core. Also skis with a metal top sheet are also usually stronger as are laminate vs cap ski construction.

 

I weigh 210 lbs and my every day ski is a 84mm wide Nordica Hot Rod Jet Fuel 178cm. My powder ski is a Elan 888, 89mm wide. Both meet the above criteria. Imo over 100mm wide is great if at times you want to ride on top of the powder at high speed and deeper in the pow at lower speed. However, I am old school in powder and prefer to slow down and crank turns more like they ski the figure 8 competitions. I love to $ sign some new schooler wide ski or snow boarder straight line track.lol



 

post #11 of 20


my experience is that if you buy a demo package, they will let you take out as many as you want.
 

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That what most shops will apply toward the retail purchase price.



 

post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

84 & 89mm isn't much breath for your quiver, but If that works for you, great!  I would prefer something in the 80's and another around 110 or even fatter. just to cover the deep days a little better?


Before I got the Elan 888 I had some Line Prophet 115mm wide and I didn't really like them so I sold them. I should add that I work in a ski shop that rents performance and demo skis so I only ski my skis in early season before the rental skis go out the door and when i travel to other areas. The rest of the season I have a huge quiver and they want me to ski them so I know what to recommend to the guests.yahoo.gif (Also I did like the Line Prophet 100s demos skis but not the 115s.

 

post #13 of 20

I rented at Vail last year, I don't remember the name of the place, but the policy was they would credit you a fixed amount (I think it was $50 or 75) towards the purchase.  I rented for 5days and took out multiple skis, sometimes changing even during the day.  I think I demo-ed 6 skis overall; given my experience and guidance from the ski shop, I found one I really liked and stayed with for the last two days.

 

I could easily see using this method to arrive at a choice.  The credit wouldn't really be significant by itself, but the opportunity to ski 5-6 skis was worth whatever I paid for rental and then it was nice knowing I could apply some of that towards purchase.

 

 

post #14 of 20

Just buy some Fortitude Yeit's. They are a local colorado company and are hand made here in Colorado. The Yeti is stiff enough for a bigger guy and has an early rise that will get you floating through any powder Vail has to offer. Check em out at fortitudeskis.com the Yeti is their all mountain ski, and that is what most of the team riders ski on everyday at Vail.

post #15 of 20

Here is the link to info and reviews on epicski

 

http://www.epicski.com/products/2011-fortitude-skis-yeti

post #16 of 20

I've got a pair of 191 cm Scott P4s (108 mm underfoot) which saw most of their ~15 days of action at Vail and Loveland for the reasons Shredhead said.  I'm in France but the skis are in Frisco, CO so you could pick them up on your way to Vail.  $425 with Marker Griffon bindings.  If you don't like them, you can return them and I'll refund you in full less $25/day plus any needed repair work.

 

 

Here are a few reviews

 

http://www.epicski.com/products/scott-p4-alpine-ski/reviews

 

http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/men-scott-usa-p4-alpine-ski-reviews

 

http://www.backcountry.com/store/review/103743/Perfect.html

post #17 of 20

http://www.epicski.com/t/106980/high-quality-stuff-on-a-budget-limited-time-only

 

Go for the bigger one.

 

Edit: so both of those sold out, but this would be a good option as well

 

20% off coupon code: firstsnow

http://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/line-mothership.aspx#image=33267.Size.LengthCM_195_Image.jpg

post #18 of 20
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I rented at Vail last year, I don't remember the name of the place, but the policy was they would credit you a fixed amount (I think it was $50 or 75) towards the purchase.  I rented for 5days and took out multiple skis, sometimes changing even during the day.  I think I demo-ed 6 skis overall; given my experience and guidance from the ski shop, I found one I really liked and stayed with for the last two days.

 

I could easily see using this method to arrive at a choice.  The credit wouldn't really be significant by itself, but the opportunity to ski 5-6 skis was worth whatever I paid for rental and then it was nice knowing I could apply some of that towards purchase.

 

 


Agreed. This is a good option.  Maybe you were at Christy Sports in Vail Village? My girlfriend demo'd some skis from them last year, then decided to buy them and they credited her the amount of the rental toward the purchase...

 

I have ON3P Caylors for the pow days in Vail. They murder it.

 

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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post

I've got a pair of 191 cm Scott P4s (108 mm underfoot) which saw most of their ~15 days of action at Vail and Loveland for the reasons Shredhead said.  I'm in France but the skis are in Frisco, CO so you could pick them up on your way to Vail.  $425 with Marker Griffon bindings.  If you don't like them, you can return them and I'll refund you in full less $25/day plus any needed repair work.

 

 

Here are a few reviews

 

http://www.epicski.com/products/scott-p4-alpine-ski/reviews

 

http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/men-scott-usa-p4-alpine-ski-reviews

 

http://www.backcountry.com/store/review/103743/Perfect.html



 That's a good ski, good deal and a good dude!

 

post #20 of 20

I don't know how hard you lean on a pair of skis but I'm about your size and I'm skiing 187 Blizzard Bonafides at Vail this year. Vail dosen't usually get huge dumps but there is a lot of crud to get through most of the time. Not so much yet this year but we're hopeful. I've been pleasently suprised at how quick they will turn and how well they held on hard pack. I'm glad that they are the skis I chose and would do it again. 

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