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Volkl or Kastle - Mantra, BMX 98, or FX94

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Thread Starter 

I know there was a recent thread on Kastle's which has given me a good idea the differences between them, however, I'm not dead set on just Kastle's.  I've narrowed down my search to a few skis from both Kastle and Volkl.

 

I am interested in the Volkl Mantra, Kastle BMX98 or the FX94.  Here's my situation:  I currently own a pair of Head supershape magnums, a head race stock ski that is slightly wider underfoot (71mm) than the WC's.  They are my #1 choice for east coast groomers, hardpack, ice.  I used to own a pair of line prophet 90's until I sold them on craigslist 2 weeks ago, with the plan being to get something a little better for me.

 

I ski east coast mainly, a trip out west here and there.  I feel I've got the ski I need for the groomers but am looking for something on the rare east coast powder day, or a day that has fresh or variable snow, and something for out west.  Additionally, I want it to be a bit of an all mountain performer, bowls, trees, frontside trails, etc.  I am 215 lbs and 6'2".

 

I gave up the line prophet 90's (178 length) because I felt they were almost better groomer skis than in deeper snow, but they were just eh on groomers and just eh in powder.   I will try to describe eh... chattered too much at speed, had to stay unnaturally forward on them to drive on groomers and back to keep the tips up in pow, no point to the massive twin tip, they are a directional ski with a traditional binding mount..... What I did like about them is they pretty much destroyed crud or variable conditions and did feel stable for the most part.

 

I like the idea of the Volkls because they seem real solid with the metal, and i like going fast, the early rise this year may soften them up in deep snow.  I like the Kastle's because they seem to be a bit more versatile in the range of skiing they would be good for.  Does anyone have any recommendations?

 

Thanks,

 

 

post #2 of 8

Of the 3 skis you mentioned, the BMX98, it is a bit softer than the other two and with the early rise, better in soft snow. The FX and the Mantra, although better, will have the same characteristics as thee Lines and the reason you are replacing them. 

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Originally Posted by cli4d36p View Post  Does anyone have any recommendations?

 

Thanks,

 

 



Yes. I recommend that you buy either of the Kastles sooner rather than later. (While you can still get one)

 

SJ

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Originally Posted by cli4d36p View Post

 

I ski east coast mainly, a trip out west here and there.  I feel I've got the ski I need for the groomers but am looking for something on the rare east coast powder day, or a day that has fresh or variable snow, and something for out west.  Additionally, I want it to be a bit of an all mountain performer, bowls, trees, frontside trails, etc.  I am 215 lbs and 6'2"

 


^^^this really isn't nearly as descriptive as you probably think it is.

 

Can you give us a little more information such as:

 

-where you actually do most of your skiing. PA and MRG are both 'east coast' but they are nothing alike.

-what terrain do you like to ski, is there terrain you avoid, ie 'I don't do bumps', etc.

-prioritize your desired ski qualities. Is stability at speed more valuable to you than finding soft snow in eastern trees?

 

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Thread Starter 

I did realize when I wrote it that I wasn't doing a good job describing....

 

"-where you actually do most of your skiing. PA and MRG are both 'east coast' but they are nothing alike."

 

Half PA (Blue MT & Elk) and Half VT (Stowe & Stratton) for the most part.  I take a trip out west every year sometimes two if I can swing it. (Aspen/SM or Bridger Bowl)  I've got some friends there. Also places that are always in the running: JH, Mammoth, Tahoe I do want to get over to Alta sometime.

 

"-what terrain do you like to ski, is there terrain you avoid, ie 'I don't do bumps', etc."

 

In PA I am on my head skis, and there is almost no point to an all mountain ski, there are pretty much just trails - tree skiing in PA is a joke.  In VT I try to get into the glades and like to get into the steeps at Stowe, which generally are not groomed and at times can remain a bit icy in the early morning from the overnight freeze.  I'll usually wait until it softens up if its too gnar.  For tree skiing - I like areas where the trees spaced a little wider.  I don't like combining tight trees with steeps, that is not so enjoyable for me.  I also will spend some time in the bumps.  I don't need a mogul world cup performer, I just want to be able to get through them without too much trouble. Also I'll maybe hit 5 to 10 footers with plenty of snow and that's it.  I don' t know if this helps?

 

-prioritize your desired ski qualities. Is stability at speed more valuable to you than finding soft snow in eastern trees?

 

I guess stability at speed is less important for this purchase, as I want something that would perform in powder, but also that I could use in the glades that can be fresh pow, rutted, or bumped, and still be able to hold an edge on groomers.

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Originally Posted by cli4d36p View Post

I did realize when I wrote it that I wasn't doing a good job describing....

 

"-where you actually do most of your skiing. PA and MRG are both 'east coast' but they are nothing alike."

 

Half PA (Blue MT & Elk) and Half VT (Stowe & Stratton) for the most part.  I take a trip out west every year sometimes two if I can swing it. (Aspen/SM or Bridger Bowl)  I've got some friends there. Also places that are always in the running: JH, Mammoth, Tahoe I do want to get over to Alta sometime.

 

"-what terrain do you like to ski, is there terrain you avoid, ie 'I don't do bumps', etc."

 

In PA I am on my head skis, and there is almost no point to an all mountain ski, there are pretty much just trails - tree skiing in PA is a joke.  In VT I try to get into the glades and like to get into the steeps at Stowe, which generally are not groomed and at times can remain a bit icy in the early morning from the overnight freeze.  I'll usually wait until it softens up if its too gnar.  For tree skiing - I like areas where the trees spaced a little wider.  I don't like combining tight trees with steeps, that is not so enjoyable for me.  I also will spend some time in the bumps.  I don't need a mogul world cup performer, I just want to be able to get through them without too much trouble. Also I'll maybe hit 5 to 10 footers with plenty of snow and that's it.  I don' t know if this helps?

 

-prioritize your desired ski qualities. Is stability at speed more valuable to you than finding soft snow in eastern trees?

 

I guess stability at speed is less important for this purchase, as I want something that would perform in powder, but also that I could use in the glades that can be fresh pow, rutted, or bumped, and still be able to hold an edge on groomers.




outta of your skis you mentioned I think the BMX 98 is your choice then.

 

 

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outta of your skis you mentioned I think the BMX 98 is your choice then.

 

 

And don't size it like you would a groomer ski. You're a big dude, get an appropriate ski.
 

 

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Thread Starter 

188's for sure.  I'm trying to line up some demos thx!

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