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A Fond Farewell to Smokin' Joe Frazier

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As one who grew up in the 70's, I was very lucky to witness Boxing at it's apogee.  Frazier, Forman, Ali, Teofalo Stephenson, to name a few and nothing was bigger than Ali/Frazier.  I was always on the Joe Frazier side, I liked his stoic determination.  I thought he was the essence of a fighter and all that was good about boxing.  His bouts with Ali were the stuff of legend, it is only sad that the off ring antics got more press than what happened in the ring. Boxing never has and never will be the same.

 

I miss you Smokin' Joe and I miss the boxing you gave us for so many years.

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RIP Mr. Frazier :(

 

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Well said.

RIP Frazier

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As one who grew up in the 70's, I was very lucky to witness Boxing at it's apogee.  Frazier, Forman, Ali, Teofalo Stephenson, to name a few and nothing was bigger than Ali/Frazier.  I was always on the Joe Frazier side, I liked his stoic determination.  I thought he was the essence of a fighter and all that was good about boxing.  His bouts with Ali were the stuff of legend, it is only sad that the off ring antics got more press than what happened in the ring. Boxing never has and never will be the same.

 

I miss you Smokin' Joe and I miss the boxing you gave us for so many years.



 

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Yah. Was sad when I saw this over the weekend. Around here the word is that he was a prince, a genuine bighearted guy. Didn't get a chance to meet him myself. Interesting to read the stuff about how Ali really used him as an unwilling foil.

 

Agree with you Roadrash. When I was a kid, there was nothing like the excitement of those big heavyweight fights. They would always be on closed circuit TV or something and then you would count the hours until you could watch the replay on Wide World of Sports. The voice of Howard Cosell. Those were awesome events.

 

Plus don't forget the greatest commercial song ever...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sp0ecDr7zU

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They would always be on closed circuit TV or something and then you would count the hours until you could watch the replay on Wide World of Sports. The voice of Howard Cosell. Those were awesome events.

 

 



Exactly.  Even though you know who won Howard still made it exciting.  I remember sitting in my bedroom listening  to the radio when the fought the Thrilla in Manilla.  After every round they would break in and announce who had won the round and the fight count.  My how things have changed since then.

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My father saw Ali-Frazier 3 live on closed circuit with some business clients. He brought me home the fight program, which I still have somewhere in one of the attics of my life. I had that whole thing memorized. 

 

Amazing the crap Frazier put up with. Ali's quote:

 

 "It's gonna be a thrilla, and a chilla, and a killa, when I get the Gorilla in Manila."

 

Can you imagine that today?

 

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Exactly.  Even though you know who won Howard still made it exciting.  I remember sitting in my bedroom listening  to the radio when the fought the Thrilla in Manilla.  After every round they would break in and announce who had won the round and the fight count.  My how things have changed since then.



 

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I saw a tv show about that fight a while back.  Apparently later in life, Ali really felt bad about what he did to Frazier before the fight.  Frazier was never able to get past it.

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I watched those fights with my father when I was very young. He was a HUGE boxing fan.  I do remember seeing the fight during the Cosell interview too.  Someone (Roadrash) mentioned Teofalo Stephenson.  I recall when Wide World of Sports (or just ABC?) had a weekly series "The USA Verus the World".  It was the US Amateur Boxing team traveling from country to country engaging on boxing meets with other nations.  My dad was super stoked when they met Cuba.  I was all excited to pull for the USA and dad said.. "don't get your hopes up, your about to see them get destroyed by the greatest boxers alive".  I said I though Muhummad Ali was.  He said he thought Teofalo Stephenson was even better than Ali.

 

Anyway, Joe was great.  Not much of a sense of humor compared to Ali, but still a legend.

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Since I'm a Philadelphian, I always followed Joe. For a long time, he had a house (not that fancy) about a mile away from where I am now, and my late college roommate Phil Berger, boxing editor for the NYTimes, ghostwrote Joe's autobiography. The TV doc about the Thrilla was on last night but I missed it. When I watched it about a year ago they pointed out that if Frazier had left his corner at the start of the 15th round, then Ali would have quit instead.  They both spent about a week oin the hospital afterwards.

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