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post #451 of 573
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Quick recap of this weekend conditions.  There is surprisingly little left of what was rumored to be the best weekend of the season, but some decent snow still holds in many places.  Most of the lower mountain was refrozen cruddy snow, not fut at all, even when covered by the dusting that kept falling at night. The rains late in the week basically killed the lower mountain.  Pain McShlonkey contestants and Squaw Big Mountain Team Cup were held on Saturday in the Enchanted Forest in the conditions that could only be described as truly painful.  

 

KT will rattle your fillings out almost everywhere you go (I didn't do an exhaustive search, but a few places I tried felt pretty bad).  But the story of the weekend was definitely Silverado- it opened for the first time this season on Friday, and on Saturday and Sunday was still relatively uncrowded and felt fresh.   The top part provided definitely the best turns on the mountain, amazing smooth windbuffed surface with a few places of fluffy snow.  Once you get to the second drop, the snow quality deteriorated, but it was still pretty good all the way to the lift.  The coverage is still pretty thin, as SIlverado needs more snow than other areas to become truly skiable.   I was also shocked at how few people were at the mountain on Sunday, it felt like a midweek day.   

post #452 of 573

Let's hope the storm on Tuesday night / Wed morning (in addition to the 6" last night) gives Silverado what it needs.  I'm thinking Wednesday is the day although I'm concerned about rain towards the bottom.

post #453 of 573

This past weekend at Squaw was quite a contrast from the previous one.  Saturday morning was refrozen and painful.  Best stuff I found was off Siberia where things stayed pretty cold.  Saturday afternoon was the high point of the weekend.  Snow softened and the low-numbered gates of Silverado opened.  Much fun.  Sunday, we awoke to fresh snow on the ground, but it wasn't much and it was on top of refrozen mank.  The morning was overcast and it stayed cold.  Not much softened up at all.  A little wind buff in Siberia Bowl was the highlight.  Basically, we're on the cusp of spring skiing, but it's still too cold and there's not that much base.

post #454 of 573

Vet

 Has your calf healed enough for another 2 weeks of punishment!

I skied Kirkwood 3/22 in spitting snow & a bit of rain. Now back in Md flatlands.

post #455 of 573

Today (Monday), 5" of snow is enough to cover up most but the biggest bumps! :D

 

That said, the steeper terrain, where previously had been bumped up, was a bit sketchy. One hits the frozen bumps hidden under the snow once in a while and get thrown about every which way! On the shallower slopes, which I can just float without needing to turn felt great though. :)

 

Slopes have wind loaded snow are in better condition. The steeper terrains could use another couple more inches. ;-) With more snow coming on late tomorrow and Wednesday, it should be shaping up to be pretty good.

 

I skied at Homewood today ('cause I got a free voucher). Saving Squaw/Alpine for later part of the week when there's potential for a bit extra snow.

post #456 of 573

Anyone going to be at Kirkwood or Northstar tomorrow?


Edited by JayT - 3/27/12 at 9:04pm
post #457 of 573
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Anyone going to be at Kirkwood or Northstar tomorrow?



Not sure yet, probably Northstar.  Watching to see if Rose is on Wind hold first.  

Check back in the morning. 

 

post #458 of 573

Maybe we should start a new thread for '12-'13, but pass prices for next season have been posted:

 

http://www.skialpine.com/ski-tickets/season-passes

http://www.squaw.com/the-mountain/lift-tickets-and-passes/season-passes

 

No more family pass option for Alpine folks.

Still the blackout dates on college passes that I find hard to comprehend (don't most college kids get Xmas off?)

 

Type Renew Gold by
May 7*
Gold Renew Silver by May 7* Silver Renew Bronze by May 7* Bronze
Adult 23-64 $699 $729 $469 $499 $399 $429
Young Adult 13-22 $529 $559 $349 $379 $299 $319
Child 5-12 $239 $259 $199 $219    
Senior 65-75 $529 $559 $349  $379 $299  $319
Super Senior 76+ $239 $259 $199 $219    
College**     $349 $379    
Blackout Dates  

None

 

10 Blackout Dates
Dec. 26-31, 2012
Jan. 19-20, 2013
Feb. 16-17, 2013

  Valid Saturdays Opening Day - Dec. 22
& March 2 - Closing Day
19 Blackout Dates:
Dec. 26-31, 2012
Jan. 19-20, 2013
Feb. 16-17, 2013
Saturdays Dec. 29- Feb. 23
           
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             

 

post #459 of 573

Ended up at Northstar today.  About a foot up top and the place was deserted.  One of my best days of the season - barely touched other people's tracks before noon other than the run-outs back to the lifts.  Good quality powder too.

post #460 of 573
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Ended up at Northstar today.  About a foot up top and the place was deserted.  One of my best days of the season - barely touched other people's tracks before noon other than the run-outs back to the lifts.  Good quality powder too.



We'll be up there early tomorrow.  You up for it again? 

Check out the pic from Northstar Village today

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post #461 of 573
Anyone ski heavenly today? How were conditions? Thinking about heading there tomorrow with the family
post #462 of 573

I wish - but I'm down south already tonight so not going to happen.  Probably the last storm I'll chase this season as I've already used up too much vacation time as it is (what's up with the lack of weekend powder days this year?).

 

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We'll be up there early tomorrow.  You up for it again? 

Check out the pic from Northstar Village today

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post #463 of 573
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(what's up with the lack of weekend powder days this year?).
There's a storm coming Saturday, rumor has it...
post #464 of 573
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There's a storm coming Saturday, rumor has it...

Good news for us the weekend warriors....  But of course it looks like a warm storm, so could be ugly, especially at lower elevations.

 

post #465 of 573

My kids are racing at Squaw all weekend.  I'll be in my traditional khaki shell, black pants, white Fischer Vacuum boots, and either a black or neon highlighter green helmet.  Say hi....

post #466 of 573

This is why I bailed on work yesterday and went for the sure-thing cold storm.  The way temps are rising the next few days could definitely be ugly.
 

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Good news for us the weekend warriors....  But of course it looks like a warm storm, so could be ugly, especially at lower elevations.

 



 

post #467 of 573

So my primary purpose of buying a POV cam was to capture footage of my daughter, but decided to throw it on my helmet the other day for a few runs.  Here's one of them on the front-side at Northstar on Wednesday.  Nothing crazy (obviously) - just nice and mellow.  Now that the trees on Lookout and the backside are properly filled in, it's kind of sad it'll be closing in 2 weeks.  How's the mounting point?  Should I go a little lower?

 


Edited by JayT - 3/30/12 at 2:14pm
post #468 of 573

I've been tracking lifts open at all the Tahoe resorts each day this March (2012).  My premise is where do I ski next year based on who offers the most for the money, and 2012 real world operations for running lifts in wind i.e. holds and shutdowns?  Last year all the Tahoe resorts were fairly equal for lifts open with the great snow levels, but this has been a tough year, with a lot of wind and not many snow days.  People who ski Squaw daily, tell me what you think about how Mtn. Ops handles the wind and lifts.  It seems back in the eightees and nintees, when i was a regular passholder at Squaw, on days when the wind would shut down Headwall, the mountain would run Cornice or open Olympic Lady as a compromise, but I haven't seen those lifts listed as active any day this year. Is Squaw planning on any improvements over what has been announced for near future (for converting High camp and Granite Chief to 6-Pack high speed lifts)?  On days when Headwall is closed, can you still hike the Chichen Bowl from Siberia and ski Headwall and Cornice areas legally?

 

Have you the daily passholders, been going to Alpine enough on wind days to make up for the voids that Squaw appears to have in terrain this year? Is that a usable option?

 

Thanks all!

post #469 of 573

I had fun lapping Olympic Lady a few weeks ago.  It was on a day when other stuff was closed for wind/avi reasons.  Good management decision.  Another good management decision was opening Silverado.  They could have punted that for the season with some lame excuse.  Personally, I can't remember the last time I've seen Cornice II running.  I think it's like a museum of lift technology at this point.  The Reverse Traverse from Siberia to Headwall has been frequently open this season, but I'm too lazy to do it.

 

In the early season, we took the shuttle to Alpine.  While it had more snow, it was less steep.  We came back.  Recently, I was going to hit Alpine to see friends, but the driver told me the trip would take an hour due to traffic; so, I skied Squaw alone.

post #470 of 573

The problem is when it's windy enough for them to close the upper mountain at Squaw, there's a really good chance that both Scott and Summit will be closed at Alpine too.

 

Of course, this isn't going to stop me from getting the Tahoe Super Pass next year, but it does make me want to also renew my Epic pass for those windy days.  Decisions.


Edited by JayT - 3/30/12 at 4:06pm
post #471 of 573

Having options on lower lifts is better than a complete "Closed due to high winds" option.

post #472 of 573
JayT I don't post much, but that video is worth a huge thumbs up. What we all dream of, first tracks like that. How much fresh was that, about a foot?
post #473 of 573
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All vouchers and tickets interchange between Alpine and Squaw.  Take your choice and go.
Not true, I'm afraid.

As I found out the hard way, wasting time going between Squaw and Alpine. frown.gif

The source of such mis-information appears to be from Alpine:

I called them to ask whether the voucher I had can work in Squaw and whether I need to get the ticket at Alpine first. They told I could just exchange my voucher for tickets at Squaw.

The voucher was not valid at Squaw. Though when I finally got them exchanged into ticket at Alpine, they gave me one that's valid at both mountain. But having wasted nearly an hour driving between the two and waiting inline, on a day that's rapidly warming, it would not be wise to waste even more time to go back to Squaw again. So I skied at Alpine. It was a good day of skiing, though I really missed that earlier hour, before everything turned into mashed patato!

To add insult to injury, the next day when I exchanged another voucher, I was given a Alpine only ticket! Had I been told some vouchers are Alpine only, I would have used that one on the first day, when I was staying at Alpine anyway rather than wasting the one valid at both!

When I got these vouchers, I had every intention to ski Alpine. And had I been told theySre for Alpine only, I would have been perfectly happy to ski at Alpine. But the mis-information coming out of Alpine making it to be something it isn't! With the end result is I wasted time going between the two!
Edited by at_nyc - 3/30/12 at 6:36pm
post #474 of 573
Thread Starter 

I remember being on Cornice II only once or twice in the last several years.  But that lift serves great terrain and I wish Squaw ran it more on bad weather days.  If Reverse Traverse is open, you can hike it and ski Headwall terrain legally, although and that's a big if, RT requires having Siberia running, and that lift gets shut down in no time if the wind is howling.  So the only plausible addition on storm days is the lower mountain, Resort, KT22, and Red Dog.  Oly Lady does run on clusterf&ck days, but that does not help too much.  

 

JayT- great video, this is undeniably one of the great features of NorthStar.  I cannot imagine that run at Squaw (well, I can, but it just would have looked like this):

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post #475 of 573

Shirley Lake Chinese downhill. I remember that Thursday.  It rarely happens like that at Squaw but it did. I am less interested in the multi-feet day at Squaw. I look forward to those days with 1 foot or less, like yesterday. You can get fresh much longer.

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I remember being on Cornice II only once or twice in the last several years.  But that lift serves great terrain and I wish Squaw ran it more on bad weather days.  If Reverse Traverse is open, you can hike it and ski Headwall terrain legally, although and that's a big if, RT requires having Siberia running, and that lift gets shut down in no time if the wind is howling.  So the only plausible addition on storm days is the lower mountain, Resort, KT22, and Red Dog.  Oly Lady does run on clusterf&ck days, but that does not help too much.  

 

JayT- great video, this is undeniably one of the great features of NorthStar.  I cannot imagine that run at Squaw (well, I can, but it just would have looked like this):

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post #476 of 573

Thanks.  Yeah, about a foot at the summit, probably a bit less lower down.  The lack of crowds while it was so good and still only March does not bode well for them extending the season.
 

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JayT I don't post much, but that video is worth a huge thumbs up. What we all dream of, first tracks like that. How much fresh was that, about a foot?


 

post #477 of 573


Nice video.  One of the better POV's I've seen. 

As for the filling in of the really good skiing just before its time to close, .......kinda sucks, eh?

 

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So my primary purpose of buying a POV cam was to capture footage of my daughter, but decided to throw it on my helmet the other day for a few runs.  Here's one of them on the front-side at Northstar on Wednesday.  Nothing crazy (obviously) - just nice and mellow.  Now that the trees on Lookout and the backside are properly filled in, it's kind of sad it'll be closing in 2 weeks.  How's the mounting point?  Should I go a little lower?

 



 

post #478 of 573

Anyone skiing at N* this week-end?

post #479 of 573
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Anyone skiing at N* this week-end?



Trekchick is on her way up there today. 

post #480 of 573

Hoping to hit Quail Face at Homewood tomorrow.  Quail face is open today and with the dump I bet tomorrow will be fabulous.

 

Anyone skied Quai Face before?  I've got a few questions about the traverse in/out and whether I can take my girlfriend there with me.

 

Thanks.

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