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Squaw/Alpine (N. Tahoe) Conditions and News- 2011/2012 Season thread

post #1 of 573
Thread Starter 

It is time to start the new season's conditions thread.  Feel free to post updates on the snow conditions and the mountain as the seasons goes. 

 

Looks like the snow guns and mother Nature have been working and Squaw has opened lower part of the Exhibition for race team training:

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Image shamelessly pilfered from the Unofficial's site. 


Edited by alexzn - 11/11/11 at 3:15pm
post #2 of 573

Cool! Extrabitchin race training! I can't wait for a real opening. Soon please.

post #3 of 573
Thread Starter 

This is not a conditions post but Squaw regulars will breathe a sigh of relief knowing that (this is from the latest Squaw release):

 

Squaw Valley’s favorite cookie shop, Wildflour Baking Company, will be reopening in an expanded location in the base floor of the Olympic House. In addition to their world-renowned cookies, Wildflour will be offering an expanded breakfast menu, delicious sandwiches, and a new express line reserved for cookie pass holders and past and present Olympians. The expanded shop is expected to open in December, in time for the 2011 holiday season.

 

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post #4 of 573

And Treats will be back this year too, from what I hear. Best home-baked goods around. The cookie pie is orgasmic. Treats is the little shop in the breezeway at Alpine.

post #5 of 573
Thread Starter 

Unofficial blog confirms the possibility of backcountry access through the FiveLakes area between Squaw and Alpine this winter...

 

As posted by John Parker:

 

 

I had the chance to speak with Andy Wirth after a recent event where he was presenting Squaw Valley SkiHolding’s plans for the future of the resort. It was a brief conversation and I knew he wasn’t quite ready do divulge much information on the possibility of other backcountry gates opening at Squaw, but I was able to ask him this one “interview” question.

I asked:

“is there a chance that we will be able to skin back and forth between Squaw and Alpine through Five Lakes this Season?”

His answer was a very plain and direct:

“yes.”

He did qualify the statement shortly thereafter by clarifying that Squaw is still working out the details with the Forest Service and that the resort’s utmost concern and priority is for the safety of its customers, and that the Five Lakes trail will not be opened without the proper evaluations and safety precautions etc… etc… But I did get the clear impression that Mr. Wirth was fairly pleased to be able to answer this question in the affirmative.

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That's pretty good news, but does it mean I need make sure that I have touring bindings on all my resort skis now?  Of course a lift-serving connection through the White Wolf territory would be the best final solution to connecting the resorts, but I have a feeling that this winter I may be bringing skins to Squaw on a few occasions...  

 
post #6 of 573
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Squaw/Alpine Merger officially closes.  There were rumors of it falling through, but the press release went out today saying that it is a really done deal.  Looking forward to ski some Alpine days this season!

 

post #7 of 573
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post


That's pretty good news, but does it mean I need make sure that I have touring bindings on all my resort skis now?



Yes.

 

But you know there will be a post-hole track laid by snowboarders so you'll be fine ;-).

 

 

Regarding the merger closing, this was just sent out to passholders and others:

 

 

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Dear Valued Guest,

As we prepare to welcome more snow, cold temperatures, the completion of many of the $50 million Squaw Valley Renaissance projects and the excitement of a new season, I’m proud and genuinely thrilled to inform you that the transaction announced on September 27, 2011 uniting Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows has been completed.

The completion of this transaction perfects our goal to afford skiers and riders access to Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows’ 6,000 acres, 44 lifts and over 270 trails on one lift ticket or season pass. The two resorts will be connected by complimentary shuttles that will provide convenient transportation between the two resorts. So far the feedback we have received about the joining of forces has been overwhelmingly positive - and we hope you are as excited as we are about this opportunity to experience these two incredible mountains, each with their own unique spirit and character.

It is important to note that our team remains committed to supporting the unique brands and spirits of both resorts. We intend to offer an unmatched resort experience to the guests at Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley in every way - and a large part of this will, in fact, be maintaining the distinct character of both resorts.

With the joining of Squaw and Alpine, we also recognize the increased importance of being an active and supportive member of our community. In that light, we are pledging $25,000 to the Tahoe Truckee Community Foundation’s Community House project. The money will help to secure long term space for non-profits providing critical core services for families in Kings Beach, enabling them to live with dignity and opportunity in our community.

Finally, the closing also marks the 14 day countdown for skiers and riders to purchase a Tahoe Super Pass at the current reduced rates. Through November 30, starting at just $439, the Tahoe Super Pass is the first pass in ski resort history to offer season-long, interchangeable access to both Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows. The all new Tahoe Super Six is also available for $399 for adults and provides six unrestricted days of skiing and riding at both resorts for the 2011-12 season. Both the Tahoe Super Pass and the Tahoe Super Six are on sale now and additional information can be found at www.squaw.com or by contacting Squaw Valley at 1-800-403-0206. Purchase by November 30th before prices go up.

On behalf of the proud members of the Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley teams, thank you for your support and interest in our mountains. We look forward to welcoming you this season.

Warm but snow-filled regards,



Andrew D Wirth | President and Chief Executive Officer
Alpine Meadows & Squaw Valley

 

 

post #8 of 573
Thread Starter 

Do we want to merge this thread with the Tahoe weather and conditions thread in the General skiing forum or move it there?   Moderators?

post #9 of 573

I was thinking the same thing - makes sense to just have one Tahoe thread IMO, since many of us hit up multiple resorts in the area anyway.

post #10 of 573

I agree.

 

If anyone is interested, I'm planning to head to Alpine this weekend. There should be enough snow to do some skinning and skiing. I'm wicked out of shape so I will be slower than slow on the uphill. But I just cut new skins for my bc skis, and remounted my sexy Plum bindings. My boots came back from repair at Dynafit earlier this week, and it's going to snow tomorrow. The snow gods are telling me that I just need to ski myself into shape. So that's the plan. Start time will depend on weather conditions and how early I get organized. But we're not talking dawn patrol. And I don't have any desire to go near any slide paths this early in the season with no avy control work going on.

 

PM or email me if you're interested in joining me. Include your email/phone contact info.

post #11 of 573

Alpine terrain on skins sounds better than the lifts that are open at Northstar, but alas I still do not have an AT setup.  frown.gif

post #12 of 573

Hmm, storm was supposed to be coming in today but no sign of it here yet.

post #13 of 573

Well, I'm a total freakin' jong. I drove up last night with my first load of gear for the cabin. As posted above, planning to skin at Alpine today. Woke up this morning thinking I may have left my boots in the car because they weren't in my room. Doh! rolleyes.gif They are home on the chair by the door to my garage. Just so I wouldn't forget to grab them. So, no skiing for me today. I dropped some friends over at Boreal (I could have rented I suppose, but why spend money to shred Boreal?). Then I came back to Alpine. Since the main goal was to get some exercise, not so much to ski. I decided to...

 

 

SLED the GNAR!

 

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The snow was surprisingly nice and there were almost no rocks showing. I bumped into Dr. GNAR himself (Robb Gaffney) in the parking lot. He and another friend of mine were just coming down from a morning of skinning and skiing. they said they didn't hit a single rock. And judging by the amount of sweat on them, they'd gone up quite a ways.

 

All told, I probably only hiked 6-800 feet of vertical, but it was fun and I got my daily exercise. And sledding a trail they mostly use for races (Kangaroo) is way more GNAR than skiing it. I got one or two face shots and rolled the sled into a powder header one time.

post #14 of 573
Thread Starter 

Bummer...  But looks like there is good snow out there.  I was thinking of coming up for a millisecond, but family duties prevailed...  Sledding Alpine is probably better than shredding Boreal in rental boots. :-)

post #15 of 573

It snowed another 7-8" overnight up here at Alpine. Looking pretty good out there right now.

post #16 of 573
Thread Starter 

Think snow, think snow, think snow...  4 more days until the opening day (Nov 23rd), and two more weeks for me :-(

 

While you are waiting for the lifts to spin, check out the latest Squaw EBay auction, which includes a neat package of:

 

  • A pair of 2012 Volkl Gotamas and Marker Jester Bindings
  • Two Gold Tahoe Super Passes with unlimited access to Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows.
  • A private Dawn Patrol with Julia Mancuso and 20 people providing early access to Squaw’s slopes.

 

There are already bids for this (!)..., but....wait before you get all cynical:  the auction price is still a very reasonable $1,000, which is actually way less than the combined value of two passes.  The proceeds are benefiting the charity, so the money actually goes to a good cause. 

 

For the people less inclined to try their luck at an E-Bay auction, do not despair: the cheap passes are still on sale through Nov 30, the Dawn Patrol will be run by Squaw during the season, and you can check the Epic's Marketplace for bargain skis and bindings. And Jonny Moseley will most likely run his free "Ski with Jonny" events during the holiday break (this event is actually quite nice, especially after the bulk of the crowd gets left behind).  


 

post #17 of 573

So should we merge this thread over to this one then?  http://www.epicski.com/t/105605/2011-12-tahoe-weather-general-discussion/

 

Mods?
 

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Do we want to merge this thread with the Tahoe weather and conditions thread in the General skiing forum or move it there?   Moderators?



 

post #18 of 573

I say NO. Let there be a separate SQUAW thread. maybe we can rename this to be Squaw and Alpine thread. Frankly i don't care for the other resorts anyway.

post #19 of 573

Note the title of this thread that you're posting in - specifically the first word.
 

Also, a lot of us ski at many different resorts in the area, so there's going to be a lot of the same people posting in both threads.  Hence the suggestion to merge threads.

 

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Originally Posted by Marty View Post

I say NO. Let there be a separate SQUAW thread. maybe we can rename this to be Squaw and Alpine thread. Frankly i don't care for the other resorts anyway.



 


Edited by JayT - 11/22/11 at 9:43am
post #20 of 573
Thread Starter 

Notice the new rates for Dawn Patrol at Squaw for this year, it is $29.  Looks like with the price Squaw dropped the "gourmet breakfast" option.  I'd say it is a good thing.

post #21 of 573

I just hope the price decrease does not cancel the benefit out like the lower season ticket price.
 

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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Notice the new rates for Dawn Patrol at Squaw for this year, it is $29.  Looks like with the price Squaw dropped the "gourmet breakfast" option.  I'd say it is a good thing.



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post #22 of 573
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I am not sure that lower season ticket price cancels out the benefit of skiing at Squaw.  As someone with a family (who used to pay Cushing prices) I am firmly behind the new pricing schedule.   Looks like Dawn patrol will be a lot more popular this winter, and I am also sure that people will still line up for the first box even if they know that the "dawn patrollers" are going to beat them to the Silverado gates.  And at that price I would not mind trying out the dawn patrol on a proper day.  I am not paying to rip the frozen groomers though ;-)

 

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I just hope the price decrease does not cancel the benefit out like the lower season ticket price.
 

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post #23 of 573
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Opening day tomorrow (I am going to miss it).  From the Squaw E-mail:

 

Fresh snow from Mother Nature and our own snow making system have added up to give us enough of the white stuff to open Red Dog, Exhibition and the magic carpets for the kiddos

 

So, not much will be open, but that't the typical story for the opening days.  Look for more terrain to open with more snowfalls.   

post #24 of 573

Anyone in the Squaw area hear anything good on the snow front?  Headed out to Squaw at the first of the year and the webcam pics look mighty light on the snow front.  Hoping for a big snow dump soon!  Last time we were out there we got buried!  0226070904.jpg


Edited by AUSTINskiBUM - 11/29/11 at 7:13pm
post #25 of 573

Start worrying if it hasn't snowed by the first day of winter. You've got a month to worry, if that's your thing. In the meantime, spend a little time each day reading the updates here:

 

http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/

post #26 of 573
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Notice the new rates for Dawn Patrol at Squaw for this year, it is $29.  Looks like with the price Squaw dropped the "gourmet breakfast" option.  I'd say it is a good thing.


Thoughts of doing the Dawn Patrol for the Gathering day at Squaw?

 

post #27 of 573

I'm up for it.
 

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Thoughts of doing the Dawn Patrol for the Gathering day at Squaw?

 



 

post #28 of 573
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post


Thoughts of doing the Dawn Patrol for the Gathering day at Squaw?

 


It is should be totally worth it is the snow is good (on a bluebird powder day it may be worth twice the price, as you should be able to get multiple runs on Granite and effectively the first run on Silverado- if patrol opens the gates at the same time when the first tram starts to go up).  On an old snow day I venture to say that no one should pay for the privilege of cruising frozen Granite Chief groomer.  it is a lot of fun actually, but you can get it for free just my getting the first Funitel up.  Usually the first 30 minutes are all yours.  

 

P.S. I suppose Squaw hasn't warm up the idea of a specual Dawn Patrol group for the Gathering  

 

 

post #29 of 573
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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post

Start worrying if it hasn't snowed by the first day of winter. You've got a month to worry, if that's your thing. In the meantime, spend a little time each day reading the updates here:

 

http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/



 

No worries here, just excited about the season starting!  Thanks for the link, that is exactly what I was looking for. Weather.com just isn't good enough on its info. 

 

Thanks again and we will see you in January!

post #30 of 573
Thread Starter 

Backcountry link between Squaw and Alpine- it is a possibility icon14.gif (but not yeticon13.gif).  

According to Squaw?Alpine press release, there will be an official "study" of the possibility of having backcountry gates at Squaw ostensibly for the purposes of establishing a backcountry connection to Alpine.  Note that as of now the Squaw's boundary officially remain closed, so dont bring your skins just yet.   Here is the full text of the press-release:

 

Squaw and Alpine Meadows Announce a Pilot Study to Determine Possibility of Backcountry Access Gates

Management staff working closely with United States Forest Service toward development of plan and policy

[Olympic Valley, CA] December 2, 2011 – Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows are announcing a new pilot study to determine the possibility of creating backcountry access gates permitting on-snow travel between Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows. During the 2011-12 winter operating season Squaw and Alpine Meadows management, ski patrols from both resorts, and the US Forest Service will begin a pilot study to investigate the possibility of creating several backcountry access gates permitting travel between Squaw and Alpine Meadows. If successful, the pilot study would result in a policy which could permit skiers and riders with specialized backcountry training and equipment to access the wilderness land connecting Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows. 

“We will be working with closely with our partner, the United States Forest Service, to conduct the pilot study,” said Andy Wirth, CEO of both Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows. “With the safety of our guests and our team members as our primary concern, we will be doing our due diligence to determine whether or not backcountry access between Squaw and Alpine Meadows is a possibility.”

Since Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows joined under common ownership this fall, both resorts can be accessed on one lift ticket or season pass for the 2011-12 winter season. Shuttles will run constantly between Squaw and Alpine Meadows this winter, providing convenient and quick access between the two resorts.

The boundary management policies of Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows will remain much the same as they have in previous years. With the exception of the conditions dependent pilot study, Squaw Valley’s boundary will remain closed as it has in prior years.  The Alpine Meadows Ski Area boundary will be managed as it has been in the past. The project will include route selection, potential issues relating to backcountry access during in-bounds closures, search and rescue issues, and interface with private land and wilderness areas. 



The goal of the pilot study will be to determine whether or not feasible locations for backcountry access gates exist – and if so, where the best locations would be in terms of topography and exposure. The pilot study will be launched when adequate snow conditions have been reached.

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