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Where's the 2011/12 indemnified binding list?

post #1 of 11
11/7/11 at 7:28pm
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I've been able to find it on the internet in past years but searching has turned up nothing. Anyone have a link to this years list?

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post #2 of 11
11/7/11 at 8:03pm

Here is the COMBINED BINDING INDEMNIFICATION LIST :

 

 

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Starting with the 2011-12 season, the Combined Indemnified Bindings List, long considered one of the most important benefits of NSSRA membership, will be available at no cost exclusively to NSSRA members.

 

 

 

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post #3 of 11
11/7/11 at 8:33pm
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Unless I'm mistaken, that's a link asking for $99 to order the list. Sorry, but that just rubs me the wrong way. Guess I'll just skip the ski swaps this year, and the ski shops too. As a business man, that's just bad business.

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post #4 of 11
11/7/11 at 8:40pm

The NSSRA (National Ski & Snowboard Retailers Association) is the source of the list and has changed their requirements for access this year. I'm not clear as to whether or not if a member published the list for general consumption, there would be consequences of some type.

 

This may be why you have not found it published yet.

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post #5 of 11
11/7/11 at 9:13pm
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I've seen this logic used before. I'm sure the NSSRA  has ways to make you suffer if a member gives it away. A local club that grooms trails in the County park tried to generate income by selling access to the snow conditions with a "donation" scheme. They were pretty PO'd when I published the local conditions in my news letter. Smells like a short sighted money grab. The Alpine skiing business must be growing because you don't raise "prices" if business is falling. Next thing will be the Gov't charging for lists of recalled products.  I'm really am just curious about the list and like to see what's going on in the industry. I mount my own "non-indemnified" bindings, fit my own boots, tune my own skis. Mostly because of the lack of competent ski shops where I live but If I had to pay all that, I wouldn't, couldn't Alpine ski. Sorry, just a cranky old skier here.

 

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post #6 of 11
11/8/11 at 7:41am

Pretty crazy logic used at the NSSRA. What is next, just the mention of their associations name is a capital offense ? It sounds like a few there don't have enough to do in life and desperately need to feel important at any cost. Absurd policies will only lessen the standing of their association. You know they just about had me on their side on this indemnification madness. And then this. An association is only as good as the people within. I would say there is room for a new one to be created.


Edited by skimalibu - 11/8/11 at 8:18am
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post #7 of 11
11/8/11 at 9:28am

they are (unwittingly) reminding us to be self-reliant. withholding safety information as a business model. brilliant. just creating ill-will. Put a boot in. twist it. bang it. shove it. pry it. you'll see what the binding is doing, IMO, and not an indemnified method, btw.

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post #8 of 11
11/8/11 at 9:34am

 

If Epicski were a member of NSSRA, supporters here could have access to the list, yes?

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post #9 of 11
11/8/11 at 10:17am
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Well, I just got a copy. Helps that I spent a career finding things for clients that they didn't have the time or ability to find for themselves. I'm thinking this is the new business model we are starting to see. "How to increase profits without any increase in service to the customer or increase in the cost of doing business".

 

 

Can some industry insider explain how keeping this list out of mass distribution helps the industry.

 

No one wants to see the independent retailer hurt.


Edited by wooley12 - 11/8/11 at 12:00pm
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post #10 of 11
11/8/11 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post

Well, I just got a copy. Helps that I spent a career finding things for clients that they didn't have the time or ability to find for themselves. I'm thinking this is the new business model we are starting to see. "How to increase profits without any increase in service to the customer or increase in the cost of doing business".

 

 

Can some industry insider explain how keeping this list out of mass distribution helps the industry.

 

No one wants to see the independent retailer hurt.


My guess is they got tired of giving away their hard work for free. Collecting all the info from all of the vendors is like herding cats. They're essentially a lobby group that works for the benefit of their members, independent ski and snowboard retailers...not an industry trade association like SIA (snowsports industries of America). They're not decreasing customer service, just choosing to only provide that service for their customers, aka members of NSSRA. One of their goals is to increase their membership ranks...so why buy the cow if you're getting the milk for free? You didn't do all that work for your clients for free did you? It should be up to SIA to gather and publish the list for ALL retailers...SIA is funded by the vendors through dues, show fees, etc. Membership has it's privileges...
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post #11 of 11
11/9/11 at 6:18am
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Well, I would buy the customer lunch, give the secretary a gift and do other things that did not result in a direct payback for my services. Maybe the business climate was better then and the need to be "productive" wasn't as pressing. As I see it, the move seems an effort to increase revenue and give non member shops another reason for joining. The segment affected are non ski shop sellers/buyers of used gear.

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