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Thread Starter 

 

I am looking at buying new skis  largely for powder trips to Japan and Utah,  but still want versatility and a ski that will see me through a few seasons and some touring.  (edit I already have a carver so this is secondary concern but still important,  yes oximoron I know)

 

Firstly I am looking at the Line influence 105,   I want to have this ready for when i arrive Utah so no time to demo,  but I like reveiws and manufacturers definition of the ski,   can anyone out there give this a thumbs up and maybe explain why?  other recomendations.  Whos a good contact in UTAH to deal with (Edit Salt lake city, Ogden areas)

 

Secondly,  I was thinking about putting Marker Duke bindings on it,  will I loose much performance in alpine skiing with these?

any better recomendations for Alpine/touring combinations?

 

 

 

Personal specs,   46,  height 180cm  weight 95kg.   piste advanced intermendiate (20 years one week warrior),  off piste beginner/intermediate only really just starting to push into this area with one trip to Japan completed Feb2011 and frequency and length of ski trip on increase.  Any other info needed pls ask?

 

 

regards

 

Richo


Edited by Richo - 11/5/11 at 8:17pm
post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 

Not usually one to get upset or moan,   but to of posted over two forums for two topics with over 500 views and 6 bumps (thks for those kind soles)

without any direct advice to my question has me thinking I must of  put entire global ski  community offside,  but how could this be?  Are Surface skis and Line influence105's tabou topics,  or so rare and insignificant that nobody can speak a kind word for them?

 

What should I buy thenth_dunno-1[1].gif  Does that give more scope for discussion?

 

I was pretty  interested in the line ski but I dont want them if I will be snubbed on the fields like showing up with blades  and Shades

 

Amarda JJ's look great but a lot more turny,  duno dunno dunno,  head hurts from desire to buy but need for approval from the masses.  My wife just moves her  head in left to right direction this also is not encouraging but Im blocking that one out this time!  Help me spend wisely and Ill shout hot chocolate at morning tea break.  Yes bribes on offer!

 

Richo

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #3 of 15

For Japan, if you're heading to Hokkaido, the Line 105 would be nice I'd think. Bindings? It really depends how much actual touring (read skinning) you're planning on doing. For side country with some schlepping out from and back to the lifts, sure, the Markers would be fine and there won't be a huge performance loss in soft snow, but they're really too heavy for doing serious vertical. Having to take the ski off to change to tour mode is also not something desirable in a 'touring' binding.  For that, a dedicated setup a la Dynafit is the way to go. For Hokkaido, you could go a bit longer in ski length as the terrain isn't technical nor the trees particularly tight. I'm sure someone else can speak about Utah, but I'd think your ski choice would be fine there as well unless it was just rock hard and crappy.

post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks Mark,   Checked out the dynafit bindings  they look like you need to have special boots to use,  as I already have pair Im not keen to go to that expense.

Based also on your response Im going a bit cold on the tour binding idea,  as I dont currently do any touring.  It was something that I thought may be good option to have provided I dont sacrifice the alpine sking,  whilst I dont think I will be vertical too often if at all.  But first love is going down the hill not walking up,  its only the means to the end for me.   Therefore maybe best to focuss on a dedicated alpine binding this time around.

 

To  that end,  I would appreciate some advice,  doesnt have to be these but they are what I am looking at.

 

Is there any great advantage going the adjustable aft bindings,  most good skiers I talk too and instructors always say keep forward lean and let the ski

do the work with modern float technology. 

 

 

should I just go the Marker Griffen or is there a better binding I should be looking at for this Ski (line influence 105 mind pretty set on this ski and think I will go with gut feel based on focuss this ski is marketed to deliver.

 

re Ski length

I was thinking the 186cm  which is longest this one come in I think,  for my weight I am a little concerned here but I thought being 105 waist as opposed to prophet at 98  this would compensate for my weight a bit,   also I think the ski may be a bit stiffer than the prophets?

 

any more assistance appreciated

 

Richo
 

 

 

post #5 of 15

If you are looking for a pow ski, then why not get an ACTUAL pow ski. The Influence 105 is more like a western daily driver as opposed to a snow for the deep.

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

At this point I dont think a fully dedicated POW ski will suit my requirement (would love to have them)  

 

I already have dedicated groomer type ski,   although in search of Pow Im not at the snow long enough to be able to pick and choose what days I will go,  therefore I think I need an all mountain type ski with strong Pow leaning thats what I am thinking the Line influence is designed around. 

 

I guess that is the perception  I am asking the community to help challange,  am I on the right track with how I am summing this ski up?  Im thinking this is 60/40 pow/all mountain ski.   Peoples opinions on that point iwould be helpful?

 

On another note can anyone help me with best Binding option for this type of ski?  At this point thinking Marker Duke or Marker Griffin but beginning to rule out touring option as I dont want to sacrifice downhill performance.   Looking at the markers mainly because I have little idea of who/what the top bindings are.  I just find Marker bindings are often mentioned in the forums positively so perception is they must be near the best quality/value.

 

Richo

 

 

 

 

post #7 of 15



I'd say you're right, i'd say its 60/40 also.

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Originally Posted by Richo View Post

At this point I dont think a fully dedicated POW ski will suit my requirement (would love to have them)  

 

I already have dedicated groomer type ski,   although in search of Pow Im not at the snow long enough to be able to pick and choose what days I will go,  therefore I think I need an all mountain type ski with strong Pow leaning thats what I am thinking the Line influence is designed around. 

 

I guess that is the perception  I am asking the community to help challange,  am I on the right track with how I am summing this ski up?  Im thinking this is 60/40 pow/all mountain ski.   Peoples opinions on that point iwould be helpful?

 

On another note can anyone help me with best Binding option for this type of ski?  At this point thinking Marker Duke or Marker Griffin but beginning to rule out touring option as I dont want to sacrifice downhill performance.   Looking at the markers mainly because I have little idea of who/what the top bindings are.  I just find Marker bindings are often mentioned in the forums positively so perception is they must be near the best quality/value.

 

Richo

 

 

 

 



 

post #8 of 15

I'm in SLC and just picked up last year's Prophet 100's - although mounted up with Rossi Axial2 120's.  I demo'ed them a number of days last year at several different resorts here all over the mountain.  With my limited skills (strong level 7 maybe with occasional glimmers of 8 in there).  But I will tell you I fell in love with mine.  Granted, I've got a lot more skill fixing eyeballs than I do screaming down the mountain...but they definitely felt like a game changer based on the old Salomon X-Screams I'd been using the past couple seasons.  :)  I think you'll like the Influence just fine here.

 

Bri~

post #9 of 15

In looking at your self-rating of your level, I would be more inclined to look at either this years Prophet 98 or one of the last several years Prophet 100s or 90s. Line makes excellent skis that perform well in a wide variety of conditions but BIMHO given your self-described level and where/what you will probably be skiing, a narrower ski than the 105 would be more apt to help you improve your overall skills.

 

post #10 of 15

As far as bindings are concerned, any of the standard bindings should be fine(Salomon, Marker, Look, Rossignol.) At least a Din of 12 or greater.

The Duke would work for you but you would be paying for features you wouldn't need.

post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by TrickySr. View Post

In looking at your self-rating of your level, I would be more inclined to look at either this years Prophet 98 or one of the last several years Prophet 100s or 90s. Line makes excellent skis that perform well in a wide variety of conditions but BIMHO given your self-described level and where/what you will probably be skiing, a narrower ski than the 105 would be more apt to help you improve your overall skills.

 



He has a groomer ski.

post #12 of 15

I realize that he has a groomer ski but even in Utah you will spend a lot more time in crud and soft pack than you will in 12 inches plus of POW. Some people like a wider ski for those conditions but I believe 90 to 100 mms will perform very well if not better. Length would be the consideration.

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your input all,

 

Trickysr,  I am interested in your feedback,   the prophet is certainly a ski that is creating my indecision of which way to head,   I think my leaning to the influence came out me thinking I wanted slightly higher bias to Pow  but wasnt giving much all mountain performance away,  another factor was at 95kg  I think thats about 213pounds Im weighing in pretty heavy for my height.   (not particularly overweight,  have been working out for 6 months now with improving my skiing in mind)  Ive alwats weighed in heavier than people would guess,  must be heavy boned???  Back to point,  I thought extra waist wouldnt hurt floatation a bit more with the driving weight to push the skis when needed.  

 

Also thanks on the binding I think I will go with Marker Griffen then as they seem cheaper and popular,   if Im not going to get a performance diff cant see the need to spend more money.

 

Richo

 

 

post #14 of 15

Richo, at your weight, and again, for Hokkaido, the 105 would be a good choice. There aren't going really be any bumps, but you will ski chopped up powder. Bindings? It's personal choice as most all are so much better than 10-15 years ago.  Rossi FKS/Look equivalent would be my choice... Din 14, then set as appropriate for yourself and ability. I'd be happy to ski Head/Tyrolia as well.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks all,  I think I have confidence to purchase the 105  and  for the right reasons .

 

 

Just cant wait be hitting the slopes now.   look forward to reading more info people supply on varied topics on this site as always.

 

will try to do up a trip report and ski reveiw for information share when I come back.

 

Cheers

 

Richo

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