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Salomon Shoguns - 182 or 191?

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I need advice on length for Salomon Shoguns. I'm 6'1", 190 lbs., and 32 years old. I'm coming off a 10 year period where I skied only 5-10 days a year (usually out west). But, I used to ski a ton more (in college, etc.) and even raced a bit. I've been demoing for the last few years; the last skis I owned were Salomon X-Screams at 187cm.

I'm an advanced level skier, but with some back issues that have made quick turns in crud and trees more difficult. I've finally moved out west, putting me in prime position to ski a ton more (mostly in Tahoe). I like moving fast on morning groomers, but my love is off-piste skiing (and I'm done with moguls, as they hurt too much!). I ski trees occasionally, but not super-often.

I'm trying to decide between the 182 and 191. I found a great deal for the 191s (but not for the 182s) and am tempted to jump on that deal.

 

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!

post #2 of 9

You could probably get away with the 191's.   Where do you ski the most?

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I'll be skiing mostly at Kirkwood this year.

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Originally Posted by hilldog View Post

I need advice on length for Salomon Shoguns. I'm 6'1", 190 lbs., and 32 years old. I'm coming off a 10 year period where I skied only 5-10 days a year (usually out west). But, I used to ski a ton more (in college, etc.) and even raced a bit. I've been demoing for the last few years; the last skis I owned were Salomon X-Screams at 187cm.

I'm an advanced level skier, but with some back issues that have made quick turns in crud and trees more difficult. I've finally moved out west, putting me in prime position to ski a ton more (mostly in Tahoe). I like moving fast on morning groomers, but my love is off-piste skiing (and I'm done with moguls, as they hurt too much!). I ski trees occasionally, but not super-often.

I'm trying to decide between the 182 and 191. I found a great deal for the 191s (but not for the 182s) and am tempted to jump on that deal.

 

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!




you love off piste but are done with moguls!?  becasue they hurt to much at 32!

 

I did not know at 32 we were over the hill.

 

 

post #5 of 9

I'm smaller,  but I usually ski big skis. I skied the 182 in tight trees and liked it, but could have easily gone for the 191 everywhere else.

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SHREADHEAD - That's helpful. As I won't be skiing trees very often, it sounds like the 191s may be best.

 

BushwackerinPA - I had no dreams of being over-the-hill at 32, but I unfortunately have little control over the condition of my back. I wish it didn't hurt to ski moguls. With that said, I'm not sure what you're recommending. That I should get the 182s because they're better for the bumps? Or that I should get the 191s because why go shorter if I'm not over-the-hill? Or, perhaps you had no intention of making a recommendation.

post #7 of 9

I'm 6'1 190 also. I have the 182's. I never felt it was too short and I ski slightly longer in other early rise skis.

 

I've seen guys my size on the 191's plenty too, so I'm sure it can be done. I've just always heard 182 was the "money size" for Shoguns.

 

If you plan on skiing it as an All Mtn ski go shorter. Pow specific go 191. It's not going to help much you much on crud with the bamboo/basalt.

post #8 of 9

I am about 6'3" and 180 lbs. I have skied it in both 182 and 191 lengths. I found that the 182 felt better. It was more nimble and could be thrown around easier. The 191 felt like a tank. Would be great for hard charging big lines and pow, but it lacked the versatility of the 182. I never felt that the 182 was too short either. You could probably go either way, but I preferred the 182.

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I am 6'2" and around 175 lbs. In really heavy chopped up snow or powder with no base I feel like the 182s are mounted too far forward but a good length overall. In steep tight trees or chutes where I spend more time sliding and following the same line as everybody else they seem fine. Groomers again the mount feels too far forward.

 

I haven't been on the 191s but I suspect they will exaggerate the feeling of the long tail to the point of making them unskiable for some people who would have no problems at all on the 182 and even feel that the 182 is slightly too short. If possible, before pulling the trigger, demo the 2012s, same ski different top sheets but make sure to ski both sizes as the 191 is much stiffer and has less side cut.

 

Has anybody played with mounting the skis behind the line? (or rear line on the 2010s). I changed from a Rossi scratch/s5 with similar dimensions but 5 cm shorter (straight pull) and all the added length is in the tail!? I think maybe the mount is just wrong for me, I find it hard to stay balanced/centered and release the tails. The tails feel long and grabby and the tips feel short and smooth.

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