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Tele or AT?

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I need some commentary.  I live in the East, and I'd like to explore the local backcounty and hills. My goal would be to find places to go downhill, even if it's just 4-500 feet.  I already own heavy-duty nordic BC skis/boots and I'm competent in BC touring, but they're not really heavy enough for the telemarking that I'd have to do here.  (I've already pulled the binding out of one ski by over-doing it). 

So...do I want to buy heavier telemark equipment for this endeavor, or do I buy lightweight AT equipment?  My problem:  I do not really know how to telemark skillfully enough for the terrain I want to explore, so I'd have to learn a new technique first if I go tele.  On the other hand, while I'm a competent downhill skier and would be a lot more comfortable AT, are there AT set-ups that are as light and travel-worthy as tele equipment? 

I guess I'm trying to find out if it's worth it to spend time learning a new technique so I could take advantage of the perceived superiority of the touring part of tele equipment or whether there is AT equipment that is light enough that it's OK for touring and I should just go there. 

Thoughts? 

Thanks.

post #2 of 8

There is certainly tele equipment light enough for touring.  Dynafit (and other tech bindings) are best for the touring part of the equation and hold up well on the way down (or so I'm told, I don't have them).  What's your budget?  They can be kind of pricey.

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Originally Posted by tch View Post On the other hand, while I'm a competent downhill skier and would be a lot more comfortable AT, are there AT set-ups that are as light and travel-worthy as tele equipment?


Yes.     See the recent Plum Guide Group buy for an example.

 

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Originally Posted by tch View Post take advantage of the perceived superiority of the touring part of tele equipment or


I think you will find that, quite often, perceived superiority points the other way:   the touring part of AT being better for what you want than the touring part of tele.

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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

Yes.     See the recent Plum Guide Group buy for an example.

 

I think you will find that, quite often, perceived superiority points the other way:   the touring part of AT being better for what you want than the touring part of tele.


Plus...

 

OP, you didn't mention price.  If price isn't an obstacle, then I don't think there's much doubt that a Dynafit AT setup offers everything you're looking for in terms of light weight, great uphill touring, and a very strong boot/binding connection for the downhill part.

 

If the Dynafit setup is too pricey, a Fritschi outfit with your existing alpine boots and almost any sort of skis in the 90mm to 100mm range (like from a ski swap) will do and wouldn't weigh all that much more than a beefy tele setup.

 

post #5 of 8

Tele only if you're totally in love with the turn and/or having chicks dig you and want to dedicate yourself to all the practice and travails that it entails, otherwise tech (Dynafit, G3 Onyx, Plum) bindings are the light is right choice for you.  

post #6 of 8

Bob's advice is spot on. Teley because you really love the turn. In deep powder, there's nothing better. Otherwise, go the Dynafit AT route.

post #7 of 8

I posted a similar thread a few weeks back. I did a lot of reading and spoke with some friends who tele and basically it seems that learning to tele on an ultralight (waxless 3 pin) setup is a big challenge and will take a long time to learn to do a solid teleturn  if you are strictly touring for turns. .

 

The faster way to learn tele is to buy a resort weight setup and ski it consistently for a season or more until you have mastered the turns. Then you are ready to make turns on the ultra light setup (assuming you are any good at it).

 

I opted to skip the tele turn entirely and go with a waxless nordic BC system setup as I already have dynafit setup and was looking for something when the focus is on the tour.

post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thank you, guys.  I appreciate the candor.

tch

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