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2012 Moment Bibby Pro Question

post #1 of 10
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Recently picked up a pair of Moment Bibby Pros. Length is 184. I am trying to decide what bindings to throw on there. The waist is 116 wide and to be honest I have no experience with binding on skis that wide. Considering I am probably going to keep these for a few years I was hoping to get a high quality binding that I wont have any problems with for a few seasons.


My DIN setting is like 8, maybe 9. 


Thanks for any opinions. 

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post #2 of 10

Hi - If you look around here for binding threads, the single idea you'll come across is that all modern bindings with DIN's of 14 or higher do a great job. There are nuances about release, but that's more for people with bad legs or racers. Some are a touch heavier or lighter, but that's mostly relevant for folks who hike a lot. (You don't say.) Many with DIN's of 11-12 also are fine, depending on the width of the ski and the weight of the skier. (You don't give your weight.) So there's no reasonable answer to your question. Go with whatever you can get a good deal on, probably 14 or above if you're over 175 lbs, make sure it has 115 width brakes available, or with it, and enjoy. 

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Thanks! Yeah, definitely forgot to post weight -155lbs at 5-9.

post #4 of 10

Then I'd say if you're aggressive or do air, go with a 14 DIN, otherwise 12 is more than enough, and lighter at that. You'll read a lot of stuff about "bomber" bindings that are all metal, and that's great, but you don't need that extra weight and $$ unless you're hard on your bindings. Only you know if you're abusive. Have you cracked or killed bindings before? Not easy to do. Keep in mind that chipping the plastic cover on a toepiece has no functional impact on its performance. Breaking off a wing or AFD does. 


As far as rigidity, which you'll also read about, may be relevant if you carve groomers or crud at speed, put a lot of lateral stress on the binding, or are into the precise feel of the ski during a turn, marginally relevant if you land hard or zipper bumps and want to stay in no matter what, not very relevant if you stay mostly in soft stuff and smear/slarve/bank your turns. Which I assume you do on Bibby's. 


Analogy is with folks who buy a Porsche and pretty much drive it to and from work in traffic, maybe go buy some milk at night and try to take a couple of 25 turns at 45. Do they really need that potential? Do they even know what to do with it? But it does interesting things to our brains knowing it's there. YMMV...

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I get what you're saying, there is something about knowing you have the best stuff that makes you want it - even if you rarely use its potential. That being said, I have never had a problem breaking previous bindings. I'll air it out on occasion, but nothing massive. Been on a pair of Salomon S912ti bindings for about 5 seasons now - had some pre-release problems when landing, but dialed up the DIN just a little and that seemed to fix it. I am a fairly good skier, and cannot imagine progressing to the point where I would actually want my DIN over 12 - that sounds like a good way to wreck my knees (given I weigh 155).


I definitely plan to stay in the soft stuff on these skis. I have other skis if I want to rip groomers all day.


So it sounds like your advice is to find a good deal on a binding from a reputable company that has a 115 or larger brake available. 


I appreciate the help, thanks.

post #6 of 10

good advice so far, but going further. dump the ti's, they break. they always break when pushed. then get  a stout binding for your new skis, nothing ridiculous, but something that won't break. It isn't the din as much as the overall strength of the parts. I (135lbs) broke three sets of ti's (the ALUMINUM heel track is junk), and a shop owner said he wasn't surprised, I should never have been on them; they, and most bindings, are intermediate level durability. My new skis all have PX 14's or 15's with wide 100mm or 115mm brakes. My son will happily inherit them he says. great deals around.


to check your heel tracks, take the heel piece all the way out with the boot length adjustment screw and look at the  piece of aluminum with the line of short slots in it. It can crack and stay in place until a major strain on it occurs and then just fall into pieces, your heel piece flying off into the snow while you are skiing. so look for cracks, and do it several times a year if you ski a lot. salomon replaced mine, but they had nothing good to offer in the price range to trade so they gave me the Z series which is also junk. only the seth or the new steel rail model are good.

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Thats good  advice - I'll check those bindings before the season. I guess they're now my early season skis so if that plate hasnt cracked yet ill keep them around - though they might only get a few days each season.



Can you make suggestions of bindings that are stout but not ridiculous?



post #8 of 10

I've been using 13 or higher DIN Tyrolias for a while now, because those models use the Aero (race) toe.  Deals are pretty plentiful -- my most recent pair of Freeflex 15s was an off-season steal at $70.  Just make sure that your shop can mount them, because the jigs aren't as ubiquitous as Salomon and Marker.

Edited by TheDad - 10/21/11 at 1:10pm
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Haha I got those same bindings but for $99 for a different pair of skis. Cant believe I lost out on $20 in savings!

post #10 of 10

Look PX 14 or 15, PX Race or  PX standard. Look Pivot. Salomon Seth or steel rail. Tyrolia's used to be known for getting real sloppy after lots of use, don't know if that still holds true.

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