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Has anyone tried Nordicas new side country line on or off piste?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I like the look of the steadfast and the hell and back-what are some thoughts on the two, I need a crud buster.

post #2 of 16

It looks to me like an extension of the hot rod series, but I could be wrong

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Originally Posted by Rauch View Post

It looks to me like an extension of the hot rod series, but I could be wrong



Not really.  The new side country series is a flat ski while the Hot Rod series is a system ski.  The side country line also features Nordica's new I Core, making ithe ski about 20% lighter.  Though it can be skied with traditional bindings, the series is aimed at the skinning and touring crowd.  Nordica even offers precut skins for these skis.

 

But to answer the OP, sorry I haven't had the oppurtunity  to try them yet.

 

Rick G

 


Edited by rickg - 10/19/11 at 12:55pm
post #4 of 16

I have skied all the models and they are all very good. (Note that the Steadfast and Hell and Back each won their category in the Skiing buyers guide this year) These are Alpine skis first and with the lightweight core stringer have the same layup as the Hot Rod Burner model but with the addition of tip rise. The Nordica guys visualize these as being used as conventional setups or with Marker Dukes or Tours along with the Alpine/AT hybrid boots. They really feel that the collection is for folks that still emphasize the downhill aspect and want touring capability more as an afterthought.

 

Nordica does a great job on their flat skis and these are no exception. In many cases, they use Carbon fiber in the glass matrix rather than metal and all the Nordicas grip exceptionally well for light, non-metal skis. The choice between the Steadfast and the Hell and Back would largely depend upon where you ski and what else you have to go with. For example, if you are a western guy, ski a lot of off piste and are looking for an OSQ, then the Hell and back makes a lot of sense. OTH, if you have a wider ski for deep days, then the 90mm Steadfast might get the nod. Both grip well with the Steadfast being a touch stiffer and probably the best crud buster despite being a little narrower. Naturally snow depth etc. bears into this as well.

 

This whole collection skis very well. I have an Unleashed Hell coming my way this year to sit alongside my Bonafides and a player or two to be named later (after the trading deadline). I'd be equally happy witth a Steadfast or H&B sitting in place of the Bonafides. (or alongside actually......biggrin.gif)

 

SJ 

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These are Alpine skis first and with the lightweight core stringer have the same layup as the Hot Rod Burner model but with the addition of tip rise. 

If true, then a formidable ski for those who like light and lively but with serious grip and stability.
 

 

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If true, then a formidable ski for those who like light and lively but with serious grip and stability. 

 



Egggggzactly................just like the HR Burner, one of the best skis anywhere (that nobody knows about)

 

SJ

post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hmmm.... I have read all this info, though its helpful to continually absorb it...my real ? is do I care to carve on stead when I know the hell and back better suits my style and ability...but the streadfast fits my quiver better. I wish I COULD JUST GO BACK TO MY TRUE ONE SKI QUIVER THE RD COYOTE BAD DOG! They were fun my coat was neon and I skied all day wiping my wind shield...the marker m48 titanium's were'nt to bad either that was a set up!

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Hmmm.... I have read all this info, though its helpful to continually absorb it...my real ? is do I care to carve on stead when I know the hell and back better suits my style and ability...but the streadfast fits my quiver better. I wish I COULD JUST GO BACK TO MY TRUE ONE SKI QUIVER THE RD COYOTE BAD DOG! They were fun my coat was neon and I skied all day wiping my wind shield...the marker m48 titanium's were'nt to bad either that was a set up!



You have answered your own question.

 

SJ

post #9 of 16

SJ

I asked about the Nordica Burner last week and got no reply.  

 

I demoed the 2013 version, which looks to be the same as the 2012 version and really liked it.  Sounds like you know and like it as well.  I'm tempted to buy the 2012 at season end prices but would like to know how it compares to others i haven't had a chance to demo, like the Blizzard Magnums or K2 Rictor.

 

Can you give me some guidance?

post #10 of 16

I skied the Hell and Back at the Mission Ridge demo day and ended up thinking it's about as good a candidate as there is for a one ski quiver.  I took it allover the the mountain (tight trees, hard pack, what little untracked snow we could find, moguls...) just an outstanding ski.  FWIW, I'm 5'11 210-220lb and tend to really lean on skis.  For the most part the burlier the better.  I was concerned that this one would fold underneath me when I got on the tongues but they just dug a little deeper..........I think I may have just talked myself into getting a pair?

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SJ

I asked about the Nordica Burner last week and got no reply.  

 

I demoed the 2013 version, which looks to be the same as the 2012 version and really liked it.  Sounds like you know and like it as well.  I'm tempted to buy the 2012 at season end prices but would like to know how it compares to others i haven't had a chance to demo, like the Blizzard Magnums or K2 Rictor.

 

Can you give me some guidance?


Three very different skis. The Burner is the same from 11-12 and is a very good ski with a very light and nimble but not terribly damp feel. The Blizz Magnums are more hard snow oriented despite their similar widths. The Magnums are solid, damp, and stiff enough in torsion that they are typically a better choice for the more technical skier. The K2 Rictor is smooth, easygoing and very damp.

 

SJ

 

post #12 of 16

Thank you.  That helps.

post #13 of 16
I skied the Hell and back this past weekend at Squaw (Granite) and was impressed.
Blew throught the powder well and was pretty quick to swivel off the bumps. You did have to stay on top of them though. This is coming from my normal Salmon Fury's. In that comparision the float was a nice upgrade
I am 6"11 145lbs so on the light side
Can anyone compare these to Blizzard Bonafides or Line Prophets 98.
Especially in not so nice of powder conditions but in more typical Sierra cement.
Thanks !
post #14 of 16

H&B vs. Bonafide..........

 

I own both. I don't need both but like both well enough that couldn't decide which to get so............................both.

 

The Nordica is lighter in weight, tip rise w/flat tail, low camber from tip rise back. The Helen is more energetic and snappy than the Bonafide and has more power from the tail. OTH, the Bonafide is smoother and more damp. Both are great skis with a different feel but similar capabilities.

 

SJ

post #15 of 16

Have the Sidecountry Burner iCore in 170cm (am 5' 10" 172 lbs) and like them a lot! I think I would like them even more if they were a little longer. These are a very light finesse ski and IMO NOT a damp crud-buster you just keep steering back to the fall line. Much more of an "up and over" than a "blow-thru" feel. However, they are great for the conditions encountered Inbounds East. They work well in shallow fresh snow (sub 1 foot), tracked out piles, moguls, and for carving groomers. Wonderful ski for spring/fall conditions, and their ice hold is even quite good too. Outbounds, they are nice if it's not deep. I am considering fitting skins to them for use with my Alpine Trekker AT binding adapters. They also feel quicker than their labelled 17m radius...

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I bought the Steadfast and could easily use it as a one ski quiver.  I have a pair of skis for when there isn't really anything but rock hard snow to ski and another pair for really deep powder but the Steadfast instantly became my daily driver.  It's quick, responsive, and just a lot of fun to ski. 

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