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post #121 of 178
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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post

 Identifying your own ability is not something that's reliant on others.


Exactly. Just because someone "sucks" relative to me doesn't mean I'm an expert, so it doesn't enter into the equation at all. 

post #122 of 178
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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Ott, skiing at 80 definitely puts you in the upper 1% of the skiing population. Glad to see you here!


+1

 

post #123 of 178

Darned straight!  Ski easily as well as 1% of skier.

 

Maybe 3 or 4% on a good day

post #124 of 178

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

I can ski better than 99% of all human beings...

Undoubtedly.....In a senior college statistics course waaaay back when ('91), one of the presentations was from a football player (backup quarterback who rarely got on the field..big surprise)
that dealt with world participation rates of various sports.  Several sports were evaluated (skiing not one of them) but the thing that stuck in my mind was that if everyone in the world had an even chance to participate in soccer, even allowing for the self selection (if you are better at it you tend to participate in it), the odds that someone in the top 10% of PROFESSIONAL soccer players would even be being paid to play was 2.something percent.  This is a sport that requires only a fairly flat piece of ground and something moderately round and kickable.  What do you think the same eval would show for skiing?  Half the worlds population has never even seen snow let alone played around on it.

 

That being said, I still love to ski and the only yardstick I use is how good was I yesterday, last week, last year and am I better than that (in at least some ways) now, and I am I still having fun.

post #125 of 178
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Originally Posted by Alveolus View Post

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That being said, I still love to ski and the only yardstick I use is how good was I yesterday, last week, last year and am I better than that (in at least some ways) now, and I am I still having fun.


I like that.  I may even use it as my own.  Emphasis on "still having fun"  yahoo.gif

 

post #126 of 178

Being an intermediate skier I tend to notice the people who are better than me when I am riding the lift...mad.gif

post #127 of 178

Any skier in the world can learn from someone else, whether a peer or someone better. To me the beauty of skiing is that is doesn't matter what level of skier you are, you can always find a challenge and learn; learning from others and you own experience. Is a beginner doing a green run for the first time any different from an advanced skier doing a double black diamond for the first time in terms of experience they get? pride in overcoming a challenge? To me they are both 1%, giving it their all and trying.

 

You can compare it to golf, yes you compete against others but really it comes down to your own game, did you play well, did you beat the course considering your handicap?

post #128 of 178

The best skiers I know can inspire others with their skiing and at the same time be inspired; to finish faster, jump further, carve tighter, go straighter, spin faster, and push their current limits in their own way - whatever it might be. If you're at that level, and you're not inspiring others, what is the point?

post #129 of 178
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post

FUN READING.       

 

Don't think I have ever been in the top 1% skiing  -  well er except - a few days when I was lst chair on powder Wednesdays at Lookout Pass I was a 1% er until the 2nd chair unloaded behind me. Ah 15 seconds of fame.

 

 

BUT.  I am definitely in the top 1% when it comes to BIGGEST SMILE  !!!!   Powder Appreciation a 1%, Moosedrool Appreciation a 1%



This post made me laugh and also realize that I was a 1%er on the Burfield Chair at Sun Peaks for at least half an hour. A few  years ago I was the first one on the chair on a powder day, rode up the chair for 22 minutes (the world's slowest fixed grip quad), skied down in 8 to 10 minutes and then had to break trail to get to the lift from the opposite side from my first ride up. So I was the first and second person on that chair on a pow day. I hurried down again on my second run to try and be the third person on the chair but by this time it was 10 am and there where at least 5 or 6 people now on the chair.yahoo.gif

post #130 of 178
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Originally Posted by Kiwiski Andrew View Post

Any skier in the world can learn from someone else, whether a peer or someone better. To me the beauty of skiing is that is doesn't matter what level of skier you are, you can always find a challenge and learn; learning from others and you own experience. Is a beginner doing a green run for the first time any different from an advanced skier doing a double black diamond for the first time in terms of experience they get? pride in overcoming a challenge? To me they are both 1%, giving it their all and trying.

 

You can compare it to golf, yes you compete against others but really it comes down to your own game, did you play well, did you beat the course considering your handicap?


 

This is the best response so far and I whole heartedly agree

post #131 of 178

I'm always in the top 1% of Americans skiing my resort. I'm also the only American to have ever skied at least one of the chutes there. Hey, you take what you can get.  

Perhaps when my kids grow up they'll turf me out of that 1% though. 

 

 

Oh man, just remembered, the US ski team sometimes trains at our hill. So never mind (http://www.vaol.it/it/notizie/nazionale-usa.html).

 

 

 


Edited by prickly - 10/19/11 at 11:16pm
post #132 of 178
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

This post made me laugh and also realize that I was a 1%er on the Burfield Chair at Sun Peaks for at least half an hour. A few  years ago I was the first one on the chair on a powder day, rode up the chair for 22 minutes (the world's slowest fixed grip quad), skied down in 8 to 10 minutes and then had to break trail to get to the lift from the opposite side from my first ride up. So I was the first and second person on that chair on a pow day. I hurried down again on my second run to try and be the third person on the chair but by this time it was 10 am and there where at least 5 or 6 people now on the chair.yahoo.gif


Love the burf...got maybe 5th line down challenger and 2nd down expo one morning last season, that day mid january where we had the 40 or so cents of super dry powder smoke. That was a 1% day for sure. I skied pretty good that day too.

 

post #133 of 178

Look at the bright side- as far as gear is counted, we are all 1%-ers here ;-)

post #134 of 178

I think it's likely I'm in the top one percent of skiers............................ in beard length.

 

 

post #135 of 178

I would like to ski at Lake Woebegone where the men are strong, the women are beautiful, and the children are ALL above average

 

Also - Here's a theory from the circular logic dept.:

 

Beginners have a lot of improving ahead of them

 

Super XXX Experts can't get much better by comparison

 

Therefore: Beginners have more to look forward to and thus enjoy their skiing more?

post #136 of 178

I am proud to say that i am NOT in the top 1% on groomers. :) 

post #137 of 178

Here is my overarching mantra for life, work, competition, & family:

 

"The fringe tugs on the masses and have a resposibility to do such"

 

I try to never be content as it leads to mediocirty. When I first say this thread, I thought we might have some 1%'s here & I may fall into that group.  Upon further review, When I'm tearing up Killington on a weekend w/ a 30,000 person crowd.  I'm hard pressed to feel that 299 others are charging that hard.

 

Now I view my wife as a 0.01%'er ; When I see her flick an off camber SL turn at 40 mph over & over...........that tugs on me to step up my game.

  

 

post #138 of 178

I think that line from Lake Woebegon is "where the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are all above average." Just sayin'. (I have the words stenciled on a doormat.)

post #139 of 178
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Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post

I would like to ski at Lake Woebegone where the men are strong, the women are beautiful, and the children are ALL above average

 

Also - Here's a theory from the circular logic dept.:

 

Beginners have a lot of improving ahead of them

 

Super XXX Experts can't get much better by comparison

 

Therefore: Beginners have more to look forward to and thus enjoy their skiing more?


 

skiing isnt just about getting better. The sensations you can produce as an expert skier are like nothing a beginner can even imagine.

 

 

post #140 of 178

True story. I ski at Squaw and I love Jackson and have skied it several times. Those two resorts are the only place I have ever been, that I will stop B.S.ing, on the chair to watch someone ski. The level at those two areas is a notch or two above what I have seen anywhere else, well expect on President's day weekend, then it is just a junk show of bad skiing.

 

As for skiing in the top 1%, I know a bunch of them at Squaw and we shoot the crap when we see each other, does that count?

 

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Originally Posted by poNTOonMcConks View Post

I thought i was a 1%'er, until i skiied JHole a couple years back, man was i so incredibly wrong. Certainly was a wake up call.



 

post #141 of 178

there is ALWAYS room for improvement.  attaining some arbitrary level does not mean you "have made it".  i personally never evaluate my skiing against others.  that is not what the sport is about.  it is about seeking out the perfect run, turn, and the most happiness.  

 

+do you learn from your own, and others in your group's, mistakes?

+do you strive to be as fluid and smooth as possible?

+does it totally bug you if you hear your tips clack together, even once, ever?

+do you strive to embrace gravity and use it for your advantage, rather than fight against its pull?

+do you seek to ski all terrain and conditions equally well?

 

anyhow, looking at someone skiing from the lift and thinking "i am better than them" is a pretty narscistic thing to do...

 

 

 

post #142 of 178
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Originally Posted by handhdad View Post

Remember, when it comes to the bear, you don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the guy next to you. 

 



Unless there is more than one bear..

post #143 of 178
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 

skiing isnt just about getting better. The sensations you can produce as an expert skier are like nothing a beginner can even imagine.

 

 



Good point,

 

Sometimes when I see a new skier (non-child version) out there grinding wedge turns, arms akimbo I wonder what it is that keeps them going because it can't be any of the sensory feedback they are getting from their skiing.  But then I remember my own early struggle with learning to ski and I  realize that they are skiing on Faith.  A belief in something they hope is real though they can't describe it yet, that one day they'll make moves on the mountains that will create sensations they could barely imagine were possible.  

 

Those who lose this faith stop progressing (or usually quit skiing), but those who keep the faith will see the realization of what they hoped for based on evidence of things they hadn't seen.

 

Liam

post #144 of 178
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Originally Posted by Liam View Post

Good point,

 

Sometimes when I see a new skier (non-child version) out there grinding wedge turns, arms akimbo I wonder what it is that keeps them going because it can't be any of the sensory feedback they are getting from their skiing.  But then I remember my own early struggle with learning to ski and I  realize that they are skiing on Faith.  A belief in something they hope is real though they can't describe it yet, that one day they'll make moves on the mountains that will create sensations they could barely imagine were possible.  

 

Those who lose this faith stop progressing (or usually quit skiing), but those who keep the faith will see the realization of what they hoped for based on evidence of things they hadn't seen.

 

Liam

 

That's an interesting point ... at first I thought, no, I think even as a beginner, moving at ALL on the snow, you are probably feeling sensations that are pretty cool, since you are so inexperienced. But then I realized that you're probably right: last spring I posted recently discovered video of my first days skiing, and watching that brought back a flood of memories and sensations .. I was only 4, so the flood is relative ... but I remember being very determined to experience something that I wasn't quite experiencing yet. I tried to ski in my backyard on patch snow, and could barely stand up, and I was SO frustrated, but I kept trying and trying. And I remember the bunny hill, using my poles because I wanted to go faster but it was too flat. (Back when you got poles at age 4)

 

Weird how that came back after almost 40 years, but it was fairly vivid, and supports your assertion.
 

 

post #145 of 178

In answering the original question - outside of Chamonix - yes, I can be big headed, or bragg I can claim to be in the top 1%

 

But in the town I live in I have to be having a very good day and most people must be elsewhere for me to get anywhere near.

 

 

post #146 of 178

I might be in the upper percentile of numbers of days skied where I reside.  I can say that it depends on the day as to how I am skiing,  To have an idea of what percentile??  One might consider picking another skier  that is obviously proficient, and try to keep up with them or pass them, or join them on the same terrain on a given day, and then find your next proficient skier.  That will give you an idea of where you stand locally if your out there every day, next would be the percentage of terrain you are willing to tackle and where that may be,, psyched for the new season, Happy La Nina to all!  

post #147 of 178

yes, one the east coast, yes. deffinatly top 2% in-bounds out west, top 20% out-of-bounds. 

post #148 of 178
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Originally Posted by Kiwiski Andrew View Post

Any skier in the world can learn from someone else, whether a peer or someone better. To me the beauty of skiing is that is doesn't matter what level of skier you are, you can always find a challenge and learn; learning from others and you own experience. Is a beginner doing a green run for the first time any different from an advanced skier doing a double black diamond for the first time in terms of experience they get? pride in overcoming a challenge? To me they are both 1%, giving it their all and trying.

 

You can compare it to golf, yes you compete against others but really it comes down to your own game, did you play well, did you beat the course considering your handicap?


    Yep.  No matter how bad you are on skis there is always someone worse and no matter how good you are there is always someone better.

 

 

 



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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

I think it's likely I'm in the top one percent of skiers............................ in beard length.

 

 



Absolutely!



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Originally Posted by andrew View Post

yes, one the east coast, yes. deffinatly top 2% in-bounds out west, top 20% out-of-bounds. 


AND,  22.5% in trees?               31.4% in the moguls          46.8% in mank?                Thats enough too cornfusing.

 

post #149 of 178
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post

FUN READING.       

 

Don't think I have ever been in the top 1% skiing  -  well er except - a few days when I was lst chair on powder Wednesdays at Lookout Pass I was a 1% er until the 2nd chair unloaded behind me. Ah 15 seconds of fame.

 



In that case, wouldn't you be in the top 100% ?

 

I'd done pretty much the same thing, only being last person off the slopes at the end of the day.  My dad used to be a patroller I would do the sweep with him.

 

post #150 of 178
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Originally Posted by Ott Gangl View Post

After 67 seasons the skiing is easy. What kills me is the walk from the parking lot to the lift.

 

....Ott

 



+1  Oy!

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