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Tuning metal-edged waxless B/C skis

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I've found lots of resources on tuning Alpine Skis but nothing that mentions B/C skis. I've got a set of Alpina's that are waxless with metal edges. These are not tele skis or all mountain skis.

 

Do I tune the edges like my Rossi S3s? Of any other fat Alpine Ski?

post #2 of 10

 

If it doesn't have much sidecut, don't bother base beveling - 0 degree base bevel is very useful for icy sidehills.   

 

Sharpen the sides to 0 or 1 degree as you like but your accuracy in the 'waxless' part is going to be doubtful.

 

The Alpina Cross Terrains and Lite Terrains would be the  only exception I can think of  to the above.  1base/1side works for those.

post #3 of 10

Why?

post #4 of 10

@me or the OP?
 

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Why?



 

post #5 of 10

Are the bases patterned or scaled? (Recessed vs embossed/projections).

 

If patterned bases, use a flat plate faced guide. Are you simply trying to remove burrs or keep an edge for 'carving'? Precision or worrying about bevel angles isn't probably a major concern....but  skis without great boot/binding/edge pressure, a sharper angle does help a tad to increase grip. Just keep a smooth, sharp edge for icy conditions or steering.

post #6 of 10
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I have the Cross Terrain. What is different about tuning them?

 

@Alpinord, the bases are scaled.
 

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If it doesn't have much sidecut, don't bother base beveling - 0 degree base bevel is very useful for icy sidehills.   

 

Sharpen the sides to 0 or 1 degree as you like but your accuracy in the 'waxless' part is going to be doubtful.

 

The Alpina Cross Terrains and Lite Terrains would be the  only exception I can think of  to the above.  1base/1side works for those.



 

post #7 of 10
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I tried to respond to a couple of posts but I get a message that I'm new so I'm being moderated. Odd I can post a new thread but not comment on replies to that thread.

 

In case this goes through.

 

@Cantunamuch: I have Alpina Cross Terrains so how do they get different treatment?

 

@Alpinord: they are scaled

post #8 of 10

Cross terrains have far more sidecut than the usual run of steel-edged waxless BC skis;  1 degree base bevel and 1 degree side bevel so you're not constantly hooking the little toe edge when climbing across the hill and to mimic Y2K-era  SL ski edge engagement when making turns.       Alpinord mentions a flat-plate faced guide (instead of one with wheels, for example), and I would agree.    It won't be reliable for accurate geometry on the scaled portion, and you will only be able to use it tip-to-tail,  but it's better than nothing. 

 

Since the bases are scaled, it sounds like you have the recent (2010 and later- orange?)  Cross Terrains.   

 

I assume you know to use spray-on glide wax on the scale portion and to brush it out with your nylon brush.

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks Cantunamunch,

 

Interesting you mention the year. I bought these at the end of the ski year last spring in Rossland, B.C. and wondered what year they are. The shop said they were 2010s so I wonder if the model line is a bit different in B.C. eh? They are basically black with red graphics/lettering and definitely not orange. I saw the Orange 201 model online so was wondering if I got duped. Actually, I can't swear that the shop said they were 2010s.

 

They do for sure have fish scales.

 

Yes, I learned about the spray-on glide wax method last year although I used the applicator bottle instead of spray-on and then brushed it out. Seemed to work fine.

post #10 of 10

The older models have pressed-in waxless and less sidecut, you have the ones with better climbing.   icon14.gif

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