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Indy Cars on NASCAR Tracks?

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Well, I'm sure most of you have heard about the horrific wreck yesterday.  Drivers seem more and more opposed to to racing INDY cars  on tracks designed for NASCAR to race on.  Yesterday the concern seems to have been that the field of cars was too large.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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IndyCar crash: Drivers had safety concerns

 

"There was total concern about everything," Martin said. "Not so much the track, the track really didn't do anything wrong, as much as it was the style of race cars that you have in the Izod IndyCar. On a high bank speedway, they're able to go flat - that means flat to the floor with the accelerator - and by doing that, there was no separation of the field. So you had a pack of 34 cars all racing in one large group. At a lot of the other ovals you have a little bit of separation. They start 33 cars at the Indianapolis 500 - that's a two-and-half-mile flat oval. There's a lot of time for the cars to separate, for the good cars to get away from the slower cars.

"Here, all of the cars were able to run pretty much the same speed, which created a giant pack. There were times early in the race where they almost went four-wide.

"Remember one thing: The crash started at just 11 laps in what was a 200-lap race. It was far too early for something that serious, but everybody kind of expected that there was going to be at least one or two really big crashes in this race."

Martin said the size of the field, given the track, was a major factor: "Frankly, the size of the field, in my opinion, I thought was far too big for a mile-and-a-half track. A general full field for an Izod IndyCar series race on a mile-and-a-half oval is 26-28 cars. They had 34 cars on Sunday, that's a lot.

 

 

These concerns are nothing new.  I remember when Lowes Speedway was built in Texas and the same concerns came up with the idea of racing INDY cars there in the 90s.

post #2 of 9

I recall watching indy cars at MIS about 7 or 8 years ago.  It was just weeks after a NASCAR race and I was in awe at the different sound, feel and speed of the cars.  Its unreal!

 

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I don't watch much NASCAR anymore, and haven't really watched Indy cars avidly since the CART/IRL split, so I'm not really familiar with the tracks. I didn't realize there is a big difference between the Indy tracks and the NASCAR tracks. I do remember that the drivers at Texas Motor Speedway were actually blacking out from the G forces the first year they raced there.

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make them turn right AND left, that will seperate them more than a 'less banked oval'.

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Without some perceived risk of devastating crashes fewer would watch and sponsorship would dry up.  The question is, "how much risk is too much"?  It seems that they are able to get people to race these cars in spite of the reservations about the overall safety.  Just like people will always go work on the mines as long as there is money to be made there.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

make them turn right AND left, that will seperate them more than a 'less banked oval'.



Bingo!   This is the preference of the drivers as well.

The one down side to that is that you can't sell the tickets you can for a race track like a NASCAR venue.

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Bingo!   This is the preference of the drivers as well.

The one down side to that is that you can't sell the tickets you can for a race track like a NASCAR venue.



I remember going to hang out downtown when they had the Dallas Grand Prix once.  That was awesome!  The INDY 500 is really the only oval I like to watch. 

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I remember the indy races in Downtown Detroit.  It was great to watch on TV but not so fun to watch in person.  

 

The Oval Tracks are all about the ticket sales(or mostly)

 

I'd really rather watch a road coarse over an oval tho.

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

I remember the indy races in Downtown Detroit.  It was great to watch on TV but not so fun to watch in person.  

 

The Oval Tracks are all about the ticket sales(or mostly)

 

I'd really rather watch a road coarse over an oval tho.

 



I'll second that! There's nothing like left and right turns of varying radii and elevation changes. The other thing I like about road courses is the ability for spectators to wander. I couldn't sit in the same seat for 3 hours...

 

I've been to some cool road courses -- Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Road Atlanta, Circuit Gilles Villenueve, Hockenheim, and the no-longer-in-existence Bridgehampton.

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