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request help/my East Coast All Mt Ski short list,

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Me: "predominantly" East "ice coast", PA (proximity (Elk or Blue when natural snowfall is 1/2 decent)), followed by VT and the dacks.

Been skiing for years since i was a kid but had a long hiatus due to injuries. I can pretty much go anywhere on the Mt but for obvious reasons not a big fan of moguls these days. I stick to black diamonds. Medium to longer fast turns and like skiing in fresh snow where and when i can find it including trees when conditions permit.

140lbs, 5'6.5" (thought i was 5'7", must've shrunk, lol). 

 

The current short list:

 

Volkl Kendo, 88waist: prob a 170cm, the local ski shop said 163cm.

It is traditional camber and when i flexed it felt stiff in contrast to the other skis on my list so maybe hard to say without a demo which isn't likely till the second week in January, i can't see going that small.

+ should be good on hard pack/ice after the snow has been skied off & still useful in new snow.

- may be to stiff for my weight.

 

Blizzard Bushwacker, 88waist: same ski shop said to go with the 173cm because of rocker.

The shop didn't have the 166cm so hard to say if they would've pointed me toward that size.

+ soft so easier at my weight, good in new snow and trees. it's "new".

- may not be so good on hardpack/ice

 

Nordica Hot Rod Burner 10/11 ('11/12 Burner), 84waist: 170cm (size is my guess, as 162 seems to small given the early rise)

+ light weight

- snappy, not sure i'll like that. Don't know enuf about the ski, haven't seen or flexed them.

 

Nordica Steadfast I-Core, 90 waist: 170cm

ditto on the + & -

 

Rossignol Experience 83 168cm 0r 88 170cm.

Rossi's size chart says 160 and 162 for my weight however i flexed them and they feel soft compared to the Kendo so i'd feel ok about upping the size.

Don't know enuf for + & -

 

Dynastar Legend 85, 172cm

+ soft flex, easy to ski so i should be able to ski longer on a given day

- hardpack ice??

 

 

*Off the list but on the radar only if i come by a good deal:

 

Kastle FX 84, we already discussed it months back.

 

Kastle FX 94 was suggested too, i question how useful 94mm under foot would be where i ski. Also whether carving with the 94mm waist will wear me down to soon.

 

Obviously a Demo of all of the above would be ideal. However i'd like to figure out what'll work now and go with it. If i end up waiting for Demo day's by then i'd prob end up waiting a few more months for end of season deals and with my luck the following year will be a terrible snow year.

 

So, opinions and advice are much appreciated.

 

Ty in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 14

My own list would also include the Blizzard 8.1.  Definitely stronger as a groomer/hard snow ski, but that's a lot of what you're going to get where you ski if you are truthful with yourself.  Also, I've had it in fresh and even 5" of powder, and it was really find and really didn't give up as much as some might suggest, given its waist.  It's strong, quick, and solid.   There are a lot of wider skis out there that are (or say they are) good at the hard and groomed, but for the East I'd still choose more of this kind of ski.

post #3 of 14

the bushwacker is good on REALLY hard snow.

post #4 of 14

FWIW, I am 5'7 and 155 and just gotthe Bushwacker in a 173. Guided to that size by most everyone on here so he probably did it out of good faith and not just because he didn't have the 166.Take it from BWPA he has probably skied most on your list.    Dave

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FWIW, I am 5'7 and 155 and just gotthe Bushwacker in a 173. Guided to that size by most everyone on here so he probably did it out of good faith and not just because he didn't have the 166.Take it from BWPA he has probably skied most on your list.    Dave



haveo nly skied the kendo actually.

post #6 of 14

have you considered any of the atomic nomad skis?? (blackeye, crimson, or savage)  i also live in PA and i have the 2008 blackeyes and they handle anything Blue or Elk has and i've taken them to VT and have been very pleased. 

 

 

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haveo nly skied the kendo actually.



Sorry about that

 

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

tch, i thought about the magnum 8.1. The 81cm waist advantages would be a good compromise for my region. Only the iq max plate isn't all that appealing to me. I can see how some would benefit from it, doubt i would, just seems like extra weight.

 

BushwackerinPA, at the moment the Kendo and Bushwacker are at the top of my (evolving), list. I suspect, at the end of the day, the Blizz BW will be easier to ski overall.

What do you think about the 173cm length recommendation for me?

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I'm not familiar with Atomic's.

 

Bw'inPA, I missed a few re:'s, guess the size is good, what do think of the Kendo's for me?

 

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I'm not familiar with Atomic's.

 

Bw'inPA, I missed a few re:'s, guess the size is good, what do think of the Kendo's for me?

 



they are mostly stiff, lively, lightweight, energetic and have excellent edge grip.  btw, i'm hoping to demo some of the volkl's this winter....they seem to be rockin' skis. 

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...our local demo day's aren't that far away, 1/5 @ Bear Creek (never been there), 1/6 @ Elk, 1/12 Solomon BBR demo @ Blue, 1/20 Camelback. If all goes well i plan to hit at least two, would still like to have new skis by then.

post #12 of 14

Of your list, have skied the Bushwacker and FX84, own the FX94 and Hot Rod Burner. The FX94 is a nonstarter for where you ski and what you like. The 84 would be nice as a more traditional feeling all-around, very damp and smooth. Also think very highly of the Bushwacker for your mission. The Burner would have the grip and maneuverability you need, definitely more lively than the Kastles (or even the Blizzards). Cannot speak to the Kendo, but a lot of folks like it. I guess what I'd ask is how much soft snow do you actually get to ski, rather than how much you like to ski it when it's there. 

 

I'd add the Motive 84 and Blizzard 8.1 to your list, BTW, nice fits for a lighter skier seeking an all around on a smaller mountain. 

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   .... I guess what I'd ask is how much soft snow do you actually get to ski, rather than how much you like to ski it when it's there.

 

I'd add the Motive 84 and Blizzard 8.1 to your list, BTW, nice fits for a lighter skier seeking an all around on a smaller mountain.
 

Ah, the harsh reality, it's hard to chase storms when they're often so few and far between. I guess that was why i had the stiff 88mm Kendo high on my list thinking it'll carve up the hardpack like the 80mm skis with something extra left for the elusive snow days. The one caveat on the Kendo being size if the ski shop guy's 163cm call was correct, i can't imagine skiing on something that short but certainly wouldn't want to find the 170's to stiff and fatiguing.

I read good things about the Motive 84's but would have to get a to good to be true deal because of the system binding which i don't care for. I want to stick with Look Piviot's (at least until the Knee binders are out of "beta" testing). Also not thrilled about the iq max plate thing of the Blizz 8.1 but can see how the 81mm waist would be better suited here.

post #14 of 14

The skis on your original list are different enough to have you dithering for weeks as it is. While the additional suggestions are all fine skis, they don't bring anything new to the table so I'd suggest deciding from that original group. I have skied all the skis on your list and can offer a few clarifications.

 

The Kendo is the best of the bunch on the hardest snow but the worst of the batch in any kind of soft, mixed, or bumpy conditions. All the other skis on your list are good enough on hard snow save the transparent really bulletproof stuff. If you prioritize really hard snow much more highly than the other conditions then the Kendo would make a good choice. If you have more of a mixed priority set then one of the others would make a better choice. If you do choose the Kendo then get the 170 length. If you think you want the Kendo but are afraid of buying the 170 length b/c it might wear you out, then you are probably best suited with one of the others in the correct length rather than buy the stiffest ski in the batch and compensating by getting a short size.

 

I lived in Stowe for 4 years and if I were still there, I would be very happy with the Bush, the Legend, or the Burner as a daily driver.

 

SJ

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