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Poll Results: Best OSQ for a westerner?

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post #1 of 15
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Anyone skied them?
108 - I know narrower than previous year, but still fairly wide - anything over 100 can be arduous on hard packed - but some handle better than others. Wondering if this is "one of the better ones"...it's billed as being built to be more versatile (50% pow, 40% other and 10% park).

Wondering if anyone has had a chance to try the new model in varying conditions and can attest to its suitability as a OSQ...
If you could only own one ski, would you be happy with it?

I know people will debate "depends where you live"... So for arguments sake - let's say west, but might be forced to bring it east for a day or two each season to ski with friends of family. Southern VT, Maine or (shudder...) perhaps even PA if desperate!

 

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post #2 of 15

I skied Revelstoke back in March on the 2010 SFB (last year without early rise tips) and was pretty happy with it in most conditions there. I'm 5'9" and 170, finesse skier (unless I have to correct a mistake).

 

That said, I think the new design would have been better for me because they have actually decreased the amount of early taper in the tip and tail, giving it more effective edge. This would have been helpful in the skied-out glades, where it was more like skiing packed moguls with trees on top. That extra bit of edge would have been nice to have for initiating short turns.

 

Outside of the glades, I think the old model and new model would be pretty similar for me.

 

 

As long as you're not too much of a power skier, you don't weigh too much, and you're not looking to do tiny little turns all the way down the mountain, I think the new SFB would be a good ski in the west. You might want to pick up a cheap skinny ski for icy days though.

post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by CerebralVortex View Post

As long as you're not too much of a power skier, you don't weigh too much, and you're not looking to do tiny little turns all the way down the mountain, I think the new SFB would be a good ski in the west. You might want to pick up a cheap skinny ski for icy days though.


Thanks CV.

That is exactly me. Lighter, not super aggressive or hard technical skier. Have an old pair of skinnies if necessary on horrible days but looking for a daily driver. So many skis in that mid-fat "do it all" category...I have a different opinion of which one might be best everyday. There are probably half a dozen I couldn't go wrong with, so I just have to pick one.

 

post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by SkiBean View Post

Thanks CV.

That is exactly me. Lighter, not super aggressive or hard technical skier. Have an old pair of skinnies if necessary on horrible days but looking for a daily driver. So many skis in that mid-fat "do it all" category...I have a different opinion of which one might be best everyday. There are probably half a dozen I couldn't go wrong with, so I just have to pick one.

 



In that case, I think you go with the skinniest ski that gives you the float you're looking for.

 

You might want to demo the Atomic Theory, Line Blend, and K2 Kung Fujas in addition to the SFB. Those are similar(ish) skis ranging from 95 up to 108, so you should find something in there to your liking. You might find 108 to be more than you need, or you might find the others a tad too narrow for what you want. Still, all of them should be loads of fun.

 

post #5 of 15

i ski on on prophet  115s in powder and 100s the rest of the time. 108 sounds like it would do the trick but i think i would probably want something closer to 100 as that still floats well enough in the deeper but you can actually ski moguls whereas the wider boards are really tough for me that kind of thing

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

We're all on the same page - that's why I was asking. Am looking more at the 95-100 waist range. But am tempted a little higher by a couple of skis to the 105-108 range. 

I definitely think the 108 is as wide as I want to go - beyond that is probably too powder oriented for a daily driver IMHO or at least for my needs/ the way I ski. Hence was seeing what others thought. Might be getting a little too wide by the sounds of it - have been reading about it and they say the SFB is good on groomers and mixed/ cruddy/ harder snow, skis narrower than it looks - so I thought I'd ask i ncase the 108 was deceptive and it actually skis as well as some of those 95-100 on hard pack.

 

Plus it just looks so damn nice! But I won't buy on looks alone - functionality first!

 

Atomic theory looks decent. Kung Fujas sound good. Line 98, Rossi S3, Salomon One, Scott Dozer, Liberty Helix.... probably all good.

 

Anyone know if anything changed from the 10/11 Kung Fujas to the 11/12 apart from top sheet?

post #7 of 15

I could see the SFB being an OSQ. I saw Eric Pollard doing some pretty nice skiing up on Palmer last week with them. On groomers. I knew of a lot of patrollers on Hood that were using the older model pretty much every day as well.

post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

I saw Eric Pollard doing some pretty nice skiing up on Palmer last week with them. On groomers.


I'm willing to wager that he could grab the water skis that Shane mounted up and do okay on them.

post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by TheDad View Post

I'm willing to wager that he could grab the water skis that Shane mounted up and do okay on them.



True, but I can see it being a solid ski for a finesse skier nonetheless. Of course it's not going to run like a true carver, but I can see it being very versatile, and that was one of the goals in the redesign of the Pollard line.

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

I could see the SFB being an OSQ. I saw Eric Pollard doing some pretty nice skiing up on Palmer last week with them. On groomers. I knew of a lot of patrollers on Hood that were using the older model pretty much every day as well.



 



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Originally Posted by TheDad View Post

I'm willing to wager that he could grab the water skis that Shane mounted up and do okay on them.


Haha - nice one "Dad".
Pretty sure he would make any ski look good and that ain't me. But I guess it does prove they CAN be a great ski on hard snow too as well as soft... icon14.gif

 

post #11 of 15

For sure the 2012 isn't gonna be as good in the pow as the older model, but what it gives up in that, it will make up for on the groomers/ all mountain. It's turned into much more of an all mountain ski this year compared to past designs. And this seasons top sheet is waay more resistant to damage which is a plus.

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by poNTOonMcConks View Post

For sure the 2012 isn't gonna be as good in the pow as the older model, but what it gives up in that, it will make up for on the groomers/ all mountain. It's turned into much more of an all mountain ski this year compared to past designs. And this seasons top sheet is waay more resistant to damage which is a plus.


Have you skied them?
 

 

post #13 of 15

yeah i took em out last week with some friends. We didn't get to ski any groomed or anything, but in deep snow, its not as good as last years. It is still better than alot of skis out there though.

 

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Have you skied them? 

 



 

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 

Anyone know if the 11/12 Kung Fujas are any different to the 10/11? Or just top sheet/ graphics - same ski?

post #15 of 15

In my house the new SFB would be considered an ice ski. In the west, the Opus is much more the OSQ. And based on talking to people who have skied it and watching them ski it -  I'd say the Opus is what last year's SFB wanted to be. In this general league, consider the Rocker 2 or Bent Chetler as well. 

 

FWIW, a reasonably informed individual described the new SFB - and I paraphrase here - as "something that can be sold as an all mountain ski back east".

 

In the realm of modern designs, there is just no reason whatsoever to go below 100 - or really 115 or so for a solid OSQ in the "west". Some of the stodgier folks here may challenge that. But they'd be wrong wink.gif

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