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Armada TST 183 vs Bonafide 180 for lightweight

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Wondering if someone could offer comment on this choice. Both the above options are available at end of season prices.

 

Me: 167cm and 65kg when wet

 

Style: Finesse. Reasonably fast whenever I feel  in control and "safe".

 

Level: Dont know - Can use 5 stars in wet concrete on steeps / medium steeps linking turns feeling good but quite tiring of course.

 

Terrain: 20% piste 80% off in shallow chopped up / crud / Heavy Pow / Wet Spring /. By shallow I mean usually less than boot top. Not often lucky enough to get dry pow.

 

Location:  NZ, Canterbury club fields. Mostly open country, some quite big runs and lots of shorter varied slopes. Very little groomed.

 

Have older carving style skis in 168 ( Volkl 5 Star) and looking for something better off piste. Both the above seem like good choice.  I suspect I enjoy a "fun" ski more than a damp and stiff ski. The Armada seems to have a nice short snow contact length and is quite light, but the Bonafide gets terrific reviews here...

 

1 specific Q re Armada - Are they well made and robust?

 

Thanks. Enjoy your upcoming season all you upside down Nth Hem. folks!

 

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Use the Search Function at the top of this forum and the Member Gear Review forum and put in Armada TST.  It will give you a few threads to read. None of us have skied the TST and the Bonafide as they are mostly new skis for this winter in NA.  I bought some 183 TST's and they look very well made. From what I have read on the Bonafide, same story. I went with the TST as it had more tip rocker than the Bone, a slightly wider waist, yet still a tighter turn radius. I have read great reviews on both. If you go with the TST, buy it a bit longer than normal, as it has a short running length and will no doubt ski shorter than it's marked size.

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Use the Search Function at the top of this forum and the Member Gear Review forum and put in Armada TST.  It will give you a few threads to read. None of us have skied the TST and the Bonafide as they are mostly new skis for this winter in NA.  I bought some 183 TST's and they look very well made. From what I have read on the Bonafide, same story. I went with the TST as it had more tip rocker than the Bone, a slightly wider waist, yet still a tighter turn radius. I have read great reviews on both. If you go with the TST, buy it a bit longer than normal, as it has a short running length and will no doubt ski shorter than it's marked size.


Thanks for that

 

The $ made it a no brainer - TST 183 - which put my mind at rest as I liked the shorter turn radius anyway

 

I took them up to Broken River today so thought it would be nice to give some feedback

 

Terrain: Moderate steep

 

Snow - 8 inches of wet powder over moguls of varying size and shape (not really large). Freshies in mid October! - who would have thought...

 

Weather - Poor visibility

 

It's unfortunate that conditions did not enable a thorough trial. It was pretty much survival although a lot of fun, but my gut feel is that these skis helped with the challenging conditions. Turn initiation is pretty easy, esp. if I got onto the new edge quickly. By doing that I could then sort of go along for the ride as the ski handled the rough surface very well. It seemed to me to respond very well to any method I dreamed up to make the skis turn - landed soft on a jump turn, accepted the odd panic pivot, smears, skids. In terms of turn shape / style I would call it very user friendly. Didn't seem to be too critical re weight distribution between inside and outside ski, but then again this was my first full day on a rocker and / or wider ski so still learning in that regard

 

I can't really say much about the sweet spot but you could get away with back seat driving if you noticed it quickly and corrected. Still uncertain regarding how far forward to go - do you think its easier to "learn" a new ski in easier conditions?

 

Unable to offer feedback on carving and hard snow performance - That will have to wait until next year as this was my last day for the season.

 

Same for high speed performance, it was too foggy and rough to give it a go. But I am not so worried about that as the friendly short turn behaviour is more important for me.

 

It's a shame I am not in better shape as that was definitely a factor today. It was annoying to get a nice rythm going and then needing a rest stop.

 

Happy with the purchase and now will look forward to next year about July/August


Enjoy your season

 

 

 

 

 

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Happy to hear those worked out as a good choice for you. I am just patiently waiting for the snow to fly in CA. Hopefully by the third week of November I can give mine a try.

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