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Hi everyone, last year my boots were killing me, I would have to unbuckle them every time I got on the lift, and after several days of skiing in a row I could hardly walk. So this year I decided to change all that and invest in a pair of boots that would fit me. I did not know a lot about boots and so I looked for a custom boot fitter who could tell me about my foot and what to look for in a boot. I looked at some posts here on epic ski to find some good boot fitters in the Seattle area and determined that Jim Mates would be the boot fitter to see. So this morning I drove to his house/shop and spent over an hour with him talking about boot fitting, we did different exercises and worked with my feet to find what type of boot would fit me best, we determined that I had a narrow low volume foot and would need to find a boot that fit appropriately.  He gave me a lot of knowledge about what to look for in a boot and how to make sure it was the right fit for me. So armed with notes and an eager spirit I went to some local ski shops to try on boots. 4 or 5 boots later and a pair of custom insoles I was satisfied that I had found the right boot for me. The flex was just right, the boot fit evenly all around my foot, and there was not shin bashing. My foot, insole and boot felt like one. The boot was This years Nordica Fire Arrow f3. I am partly on a budget though.....

This boot goes for $600 online. I was wondering if anyone knew what last years model line up was that this years fire arrow replaced. I was hopeing that I could find last years boot, try it on and see if it fit the same as this years, and hopefully save a few bucks

Thanks

 

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The Firearrow line is a brand new series for this season so there is no version from last year, closest will be the Speedmachine series. If you found a boot that fits you well and your feet are happy in them, it not the place to save money. If you found a load shop that has a boot that works for you, buy it there. Having a shop local that can back a boot purchase is worth more than any money you can save in finding a leftover boot you can find on line. 

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^^^^^^^^^ 100% agree with going with a boot your feet are happy in, instead of "something similiar" from the internet. Being the owner of a Speedmachine 12, I found there is a pretty good difference between the Speedmachine and Firearrow line. For me, the Firearrow boots felt too short at the front of the top portion of the cuff. They don't give me as much support as the Speedmachines do, in my opinion.

 

Back on subject...If you are having to look in a different direction, did you try on anything like the Dalbello Krypton Rampage? They are a similiar setup; 3 latch/buckle, low volume (98mm compared to the firearrow 100mm), and a progressive flex to 110. But will probably be cheaper. Just a though, as you will probably not see the Firearrows going on sale for a while, if at all, due their popularity.

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Thanks, I think you are right I might just have to suck it up and buy the boots. No I have not tried any Dabellos yet, I will have to give those a try. But I have another question. I will be skiing this season, but not for the next several seasons. Do you think it is worth it to buy boots this year and let them stay on the shelf for a couple of years? Or should I demo boots this year and invest in several years?

My feeling is that boot technology does not change much, so if the boots fit me well now wont they fit me well in the future? And if the technology does it really matter?

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
If you found a load shop that has a boot that works for you, buy it there. Having a shop local that can back a boot purchase is worth more than any money you can save in finding a leftover boot you can find on line. 


^^^What he said. Well, substituting "local" for "load." Don't even want to think what a "load shop" is. Unless we're taking ski porn in a more traditional direction. biggrin.gif

 

I own Dalbellos, love what they do for my skiing, PITA in terms of dialing in the fit. All I can assume is that European men have long skinny feet with fat heels and stubby toes. Worth trying on, but doubt that if a Nordie fits, the Dalbello will too. 

 

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Originally Posted by Vasudeva View Post

Thanks, I think you are right I might just have to suck it up and buy the boots. No I have not tried any Dabellos yet, I will have to give those a try. But I have another question. I will be skiing this season, but not for the next several seasons. Do you think it is worth it to buy boots this year and let them stay on the shelf for a couple of years? Or should I demo boots this year and invest in several years?

My feeling is that boot technology does not change much, so if the boots fit me well now wont they fit me well in the future? And if the technology does it really matter?



If you will only be skiing this season, and not any others in the near future, it may be worth trying to find a used pair which fits you. A lot of shops will have demos or trade ins, or something to that effect. Worth a shot if only skiing this season.

 

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I have had a chance to try on both the Nordica Firearrow and the Speedmachine this year. I have a medium width C/D foot with an average arch and above average instep. They claim the Firearrow has a 100mm last, which puts it in the medium category. I felt that the Firearrow had a relaxed fit, and the Speedmachine was way too roomy for my taste, so if you have a low volume foot, I can't see either of those being a good fit for you. For comparison sake, I ended up buying a pair of the Dalbello Scorpion 130 with an advertised 98mm last, which felt about right. Snug, but not a death grip. But I'm not suggesting that you run out and buy the Scorpion 130 unless you've got the heft to flex it. But the Dalbello Krypton Cross is another 98mm last three buckle design that is a low volume boot with a more forgiving flex to it that might be worth a look.

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