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Guide to Whitefish

post #1 of 27
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I've been working on a guide to Whitefish, sort of an interactive map. EpicSki has decided to sponsor it and there is now a link to it on the resort Wiki. 

 

It's not quite done, but I'm closing on that and will more than likely be as done as I can be by the end of this month.  This season I'll be looking to "fill in the holes", but there is a lot of info up there so far. 

post #2 of 27

Nice!

post #3 of 27
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Thanks.  I was afraid that you, as a local, would be upset with some of it.  If you're behind it, I might ask your help on some of the areas I don't know that well. 
 

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Nice!



 

post #4 of 27
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Thanks.  I was afraid that you, as a local, would be upset with some of it.  If you're behind it, I might ask your help on some of the areas I don't know that well.  

 



You must have put quite some time into that, it covers pretty much the entire mountain. Like the First Creek, East Rim/ Nuggest area?

 

post #5 of 27
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Right, I need help on those.  Are the descriptions of the approaches and routes correct?  Basically, if it's a double black, take a look at it and read the verbiage.  I'm going to be working on filling in the blanks this season.  You'd think that with 4300 pictures, I'd have had the place covered.  But it turns out that I have over 200 pics of places like Good Med, the Face, Sling Shot, etc. and of course nothing in some of the other areas.  So...I have "homework" for the coming season.  One thing making me feel better about what I don't have is that I seem to be lacking a lot of the "greens", as well. 
 

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Thanks.  I was afraid that you, as a local, would be upset with some of it.  If you're behind it, I might ask your help on some of the areas I don't know that well.  

 



You must have put quite some time into that, it covers pretty much the entire mountain. Like the First Creek, East Rim/ Nuggest area?

 



 

post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Right, I need help on those.  Are the descriptions of the approaches and routes correct?  Basically, if it's a double black, take a look at it and read the verbiage.  I'm going to be working on filling in the blanks this season.  You'd think that with 4300 pictures, I'd have had the place covered.  But it turns out that I have over 200 pics of places like Good Med, the Face, Sling Shot, etc. and of course nothing in some of the other areas.  So...I have "homework" for the coming season.  One thing making me feel better about what I don't have is that I seem to be lacking a lot of the "greens", as well.  

 

It looks like you have all the approaches right. Thats how i get to them anyway, haha. 4300?! Wow. haha, i think that the face is probably the most photographed location on the mountain. Well, that may be because a vast majority of the greens are on the lower half, and who wants to ski there when you can go to the top and get twice the vertical?

 

 

post #7 of 27
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I'd ask the daughter for help, but she's in the category of "those who would have a fit" about this.  Everyone once in a while I ask like ONE question and she wants to know why all this stuff is on my mind NOW...  LOL!

post #8 of 27
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I'd ask the daughter for help, but she's in the category of "those who would have a fit" about this.  Everyone once in a while I ask like ONE question and she wants to know why all this stuff is on my mind NOW...  LOL!
 

Hahaha! BTW, i just finished looking at the whole guide, It is very accurate! I can't see why any locals would have a fit, actually, maybe it's because your'e giving away their secret stash, haha. Anyways great job!

post #9 of 27
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Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. 
 

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I'd ask the daughter for help, but she's in the category of "those who would have a fit" about this.  Everyone once in a while I ask like ONE question and she wants to know why all this stuff is on my mind NOW...  LOL!
 

Hahaha! BTW, i just finished looking at the whole guide, It is very accurate! I can't see why any locals would have a fit, actually, maybe it's because your'e giving away their secret stash, haha. Anyways great job!



 

post #10 of 27

I haven't skied Whitefish/Big Mountain in years.. but after reading your guide, it makes me want to come back this winter. biggrin.gif

 

Great job and very thorough!

post #11 of 27
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Thanks..maybe I should start forwarding messages like this to the resort...
 

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I haven't skied Whitefish/Big Mountain in years.. but after reading your guide, it makes me want to come back this winter. biggrin.gif

 

Great job and very thorough!



 

post #12 of 27
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The site is as complete as it can be until the season begins.  I found that trails at either end of my ability range (greens and double blacks) were seriously lacking in pictures.  Now, I'll have a homework assignment for the winter.  In the meantime, I'll be adding stuff to Tips and Trivia as it occurs to me. 

post #13 of 27

Excellent job!   icon14.gif

 

 

post #14 of 27
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Wow, thanks!  Didn't tell you about it, was afraid you'd come up to me on the slopes and beat me up. 

 

I certainly haven't told my daughter about it....  Had to hide what I was up to...

 

Feel free to send me corrections if you see issues.  Some of the stuff that's "secret" and double black or green, especially the stuff without pictures, is still in need of some vetting or personal inspection.  (I have my "homework" for the coming season.)

 

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Excellent job!   icon14.gif

 

 



 


Edited by sibhusky - 10/21/11 at 10:00am
post #15 of 27

No need to worry about being beat up by me.  Even though I was born in Montana, I have only lived in the Flathead for the last 6 years.  I learned to ski in Bozeman and skied at Big Mountain at times in the 80's but lived in Nevada for almost 20 years before moving here.  I only started getting the skiing fever back about 3 years ago so I don't know Big Mountain that well yet so I love your guide.   Even if I was one of those protective people and wanted to beat you up,  I am normally a weekend skier because of work, chances that we will cross paths are pretty low.

 

Thanks again for the hard work you have done on this.

 

Mike

 

 

post #16 of 27
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No need to worry about being beat up by me.  Even though I was born in Montana, I have only lived in the Flathead for the last 6 years.  I learned to ski in Bozeman and skied at Big Mountain at times in the 80's but lived in Nevada for almost 20 years before moving here.  I only started getting the skiing fever back about 3 years ago so I don't know Big Mountain that well yet so I love your guide.   Even if I was one of those protective people and wanted to beat you up,  I am normally a weekend skier because of work, chances that we will cross paths are pretty low.

 

Thanks again for the hard work you have done on this.

 

Mike

 

 



One of the great things about the Big: it's so damn big. Seriously, it took me 4 years of skiing 40+ days a year to get entirely comfortable. I still don't think i can say i know the mountain like the back of my hand.

 

post #17 of 27
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I've got 8 seasons in, skied an average of 65 days a year every one of them and there is no way I'd say I'm "comfortable" in many areas, demonstrated by the distinct lack of double diamond pics.

post #18 of 27

Do you have any suggestions for getting the nordic ski trails at the base of Big Mountain (?) re-opened? For someone who enjoys both types of skiing it was great to have the option of going nordic when the fog rolled in. Plus it is/was a terrific track, one of the best I've skied. Such a shame to see it closed down. 

post #19 of 27
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I don't really know why they closed.  I know someone who complained repeatedly, though, and is now going to another area because of it.  I'm sure it was expense related.  They are trying to make a profit these days and, given the high number of alternatives in the area, there is probably no loyal local base to justify the effort.  MOST OF THE SKIERS AT THE MOUNTAIN ARE LOCALS.  Have you tried any of the other local areas in the valley (I don't nordic ski, so haven't a clue as to their quality.)
 

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Do you have any suggestions for getting the nordic ski trails at the base of Big Mountain (?) re-opened? For someone who enjoys both types of skiing it was great to have the option of going nordic when the fog rolled in. Plus it is/was a terrific track, one of the best I've skied. Such a shame to see it closed down. 



 

post #20 of 27

That amazes me that you didn't know they were closed. It illustrates the huge chasm that exists between downhill and nordic skiers, something I never understood. Skiing is skiing. Yes there are alternatives (Golf course,Stillwater, Izaak Walton, Glacier, Blacktail) but none of them compares to the BIg Mountain loop. It's world class, and it begins 100 feet from the day lodge! I have heard some lame excuses offered as to why they were closed (Big Dave emailed me that the skidoo won't fit through the cement tunnel) but nothing convincing. Money? All they have to do is up the trail fee. My suspicion is that the owner doesn't even know what nordic skiing is ( he probably thinks it's for tree-huggers) so he crossed it out of the budget. It's very sad.

post #21 of 27
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I didn't say I didn't know they were closed, but I didn't know WHY they were closed....  Clearly I knew they were closed because I told you I knew someone who was complaining about it.  I even have a feel for the "when" (3-4 seasons back), but Dan Graves and I are not buddies.  I was more upset about losing the NorAms and the fact that the race team is no longer part of the mountain and that they close the lifts a half hour earlier than they used to in the spring. All were expense related, so I am assuming that the x-country was as well.  

 

The place is finally making a profit, though, and that's the most important thing as, if it went belly up, there's nothing to fill the gap.  That certainly can't be said for x-country.  

post #22 of 27

Yes, all true. Apologies for misunderstanding you. I get emotional over the loss of my beloved xc trails.  PS Your Guide is terrific, I look at it at work for inspiration .

post #23 of 27

Looking through the guide, Very nice. Obviously much work put into that. 

post #24 of 27

Let me know if i can help in the upcoming season. 

post #25 of 27
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Let me know if i can help in the upcoming season. 

Clearly I need more pictures of the double blacks.  I have NO PLANS to ski them, it's like a thing with me.  Daughter refuses to help mom give away her stashes OR be seen taking pictures of her own mountain like a tourist.  Kids.

post #26 of 27
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I started feeling there was a need for a one page guide to the resort for "first day" use that would take most skiers (who can ski the blues, NOT beginners!) all around the resort using just a few trails, so that they could gain a sense of where things were and what they might like to ski later after they were oriented.  I identified six key routes that would show just about everything the resort had to offer from snowflake level to double blacks.  No surprise, these are predominantly ridge runs that encircle the major bowl areas and offer large vistas.  I've done as much as I can at the moment on it, being hampered by the fact that new trails are being cut this summer and the map is going to change for the backside of the resort AGAIN (I know this because right now "future runs" head off the edge of the page).  Whenever they issue that last map, I'll resume and finish half of that last bowl in the fall, and the final "tour" probably after I confirm sight lines next winter.  I'm sure the route won't change, but the verbiage about what you are seeing might.  

post #27 of 27
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A guide to brewing in our area, in case the skiing isn't enough.
http://www.dailyinterlake.com/app/magazines/pdf_files/20140428_fbj.pdf
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