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Lange RS 130 stiffer than RX 130?

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I just recently heard that the RX 130 flexes softer than the RS 130, and that the flex of the RX 130 is more akin to the RS 110 than the RS 130.  The explanation was that the translucent materials used in most ski boots, not just the Langes, tend to be softer than the opaque materials, and that the difference is particularly noticeable in comparing the RS 130 wide and the RX 130 which are otherwise identical in every other facet that could affect the flex.  Anyone else notice this either with the Langes or in general between translucent v opaque shells?

post #2 of 12

Yeah I was told that and noticed it in a comparison. I bought the RX 130 because I felt it would be a better fit for where I ski. I also thought the RS would wear on me over the course of a full day of skiing. I don't know about the RX 130 flex being equal to the RS 110.

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I recently purchased RS 130 wides and just based on the flex in the shop, they feel soft, but I have heard they stiffen up significantly in colder temps compared to other boots at room temperature.  This most likely means they will be poor in that spring slush I like to rip...ughh, but the out of box fit feels really nice and I have high hopes.  I have not heard about the RX 130 and RS 130 having different flexes until now.

post #4 of 12

if there is a difference, its marginal but its significantly stiffer than the 110.  Hopefully one of the pro boot folks will give verifed accurate info but as a RX130 owner, this is my experience.

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Originally Posted by smithers View Post

I recently purchased RS 130 wides and just based on the flex in the shop, they feel soft, but I have heard they stiffen up significantly in colder temps compared to other boots at room temperature. 

 

I am moving from my 2nd pair of RL 150's to the RS 130 this season, hope they are not too soft.  This will be my first time NOT in a plug boot for as long as I can remember.  I considered the RS 140, but wanted to avoid the lace up liner.  I would be interested in others feedback, especially those who where in the RS 130 last season with a racing background.

Thanks,

JF

 

 

 

post #6 of 12

Stiffness is preference. I've been in the RS 130 for two years and in Langes for the better part of.........wellllll.........uhhhhh..........biggrin.gif

 

The RS 130 is for sure softer than the current RP-ZA, probably closest to the ZAS. In warm weather, it feels a little soft, OTH in normal winter temps it is fine and at -12* at Winter Park last SIA intro.......downright stiff. I have no plans to run a race course in anger anytime soon but I ski firm snow a fair bit and reasonably well. For my tastes, the RS 130 is great but YMMV. Interestingly, most companies do not make a boot in a civilian last that is as stiff as a ZA. One exception might be the Nordie Dobermann Pro 130. Probably the biggest thing you will miss will be the power out of the lower in the navicular area. Typical plug boots are almost twice as thick as most other boots in this area and this is one of the principal reasons that they ski the way they do.

 

FWIW....you oughta re-think the RS 140. You do not have to lace the liner if you don't want to and the fit material is much firmer than in the RS 130.

 

SJ

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Stiffness is preference. I've been in the RS 130 for two years and in Langes for the better part of.........wellllll.........uhhhhh..........biggrin.gif

You & me both!
 

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FWIW....you oughta re-think the RS 140. You do not have to lace the liner if you don't want to and the fit material is much firmer than in the RS 130.

 

SJ

I have already ordered the RS 130, the fit out of the box was really good in the 97mm last.  Many of the changes I was making to the RL's are already done in the RS's.  As I find myself doing a lot more hiking, & a lot less hard snow racing, I thought I would try to give my feet a break.  I also look forward to maybe having a little warmer toes.  If they do not work out like I hope, I will look into having a 2nd pair of higher performance boots (keep me in mind when the deals pop up, 26.5 wink.gif).  I still have both pairs of RL's, but they each have 300 days on them & are pretty hammered.

 

Thanks for the input!

JF

post #8 of 12

I have been on the 2013 RX130 (size 31.5) hoping the cold weather would stiffen them up a lot more.  This boot is soft!  Given it’s a 31.5, but with the same consideration for buckles offered on a boot drastically smaller and the same plastic compounds it creates a very soft feel with a flexible outsole.

post #9 of 12

in selling both the RS 130 and the RS130, I have found that in the shop the RS feels much softer.  That said, we ski outside in the cold, my feed back is the RX stiffens right up on the hill.

It's been a very popular boot with the pro community.  I haven't had one RX come back to be cut.  That should mean that the skier has enough ability to pull a pin, or just skis in a boot that is too 

stiff.  The RS on the other hand is usually sold to a racer, or someone who understands that a boot like this will probably not be skied stock.  We call them "grind to fit".  Even though the upper

flex boots in general have become much user friendly in the past few years.  The bottom line is that both boots are very stiff, and the fit will depend on you.  The RX has a low bootboard and a 

100mm last.  The RS has a medium bootboard and a 97mm last( it also is made in a 95mm and the RSwide is a 100mm but is a totally other boot) the skier should expect some level of boot work

to make it right.  The RX has been skied stock, or with very little work. I hope this might help.

post #10 of 12

   Even though old , I will add my 2 cents to this..

Comparing what I ski ( Atomic Hawk 110's) and the pair of Lange's I just bought..  RX130's  ( not skied yet )

I will say the Atomics are noticeably stiffer..  spent some time walking around the house is both..

 

Just an idea when comparing brand to brand or maybe even model over model

 

Kyle

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by epkdadoo View Post
 

I just recently heard that the RX 130 flexes softer than the RS 130, and that the flex of the RX 130 is more akin to the RS 110 than the RS 130.  The explanation was that the translucent materials used in most ski boots, not just the Langes, tend to be softer than the opaque materials, and that the difference is particularly noticeable in comparing the RS 130 wide and the RX 130 which are otherwise identical in every other facet that could affect the flex.  Anyone else notice this either with the Langes or in general between translucent v opaque shells?


There's a good review of this on Blister; Jonathan breaks down the details of the RS, RX, XT in terms of construction. Not sure about translucency (not a plastics specialist), but apparently the two boots do not completely share the same plastic, whatever its appearance. PU vs. PE. Agree with FIS, the RS stiffens up a lot in the cold. Which is why walking around in a store can be misleading. 

post #12 of 12
I have noticed that see through plastics seem to flex softer in warmer temps. My old Salomon boots would turn to mush if I went into the lodge and ate lunch, where both of my dobermanns do not.
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