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Ok here is the situation.  I now share an office with a new partner who is an observant (as far as I can tell - always wears the hijab, never appears "bifurcated") female muslim. She is bright, funny and very active (complained about there not being any field hockey league here she could join).  She has looked over my shoulder occasionally while I was browsing this forum (at work?...never!) and dropped several comments about how fun it looked.  I plan to invite her up with my family this winter to give it a try (beginner lesson of course).  My question is are there any thing(s) I should be aware of as far as special concern given her religion?  I assume some instructors have given lessons to observant muslims.

post #2 of 9
Probably a dumb response but would it be best/easiest uf you were just to ask her rules on hijab/helmet?

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Probably a dumb response but would it be best/easiest uf you were just to ask her rules on hijab/helmet?
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Sorry, the thread title was a weak attempt at being witty - I doubt there is a problem wearing a helmet over a hijab (probably pretty comfy).  And I do plan to ask her if there any specific concerns when I invite her.  I was more asking if there are any general concerns with observant female muslims and skiing that others (esp. instructors) have noted that I should be aware of ahead of time - and therefore be prepared to address should her response be "Oh I'd love to, but what about ....?"

 

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  I was more asking if there are any general concerns with observant female muslims

Observant muslims are not all observant in the same ways. You really need to talk to her. Once you're past the big hurdles (What will she wear? Will it be proper for a rental tech to size her for rental boots?), things like diet should sort themselves.
post #5 of 9
As with religious Jewish skiers, I'd recommend staying away from the Bacon Beacon. We all know the avy dogs love the bacon beacon, but it's not Kosher / Halal. tongue.gif
post #6 of 9

There's something more pressing than if she's able to go skiing........You should ask her if she'd be allowed to come along with you in the first place.  As I understand, there may be rules against being in the presence of men who are not direct relatives.

 

 

Disclaimer: I am not making assumptions on religious beliefs or practices; I am going from what I've been told by co-workers in the know.  Hence my use of the word "may".

 

 

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There's something more pressing than if she's able to go skiing........You should ask her if she'd be allowed to come along with you in the first place.  As I understand, there may be rules against being in the presence of men who are not direct relatives.

 

 

Disclaimer: I am not making assumptions on religious beliefs or practices; I am going from what I've been told by co-workers in the know.  Hence my use of the word "may".

 

 

Doubt that would be a problem as she is a physician and is already sharing an office with me, sees men alone for exams.  And my wife and daughter will be there.  As many have mentioned above the easiest course will be to simply ask her if she would like to go and see if there are any concerns.  I really don't know much at all about the faith and didn't want to seem like an ethnocentric american goob by missing something obvious.  I may BE and ethocentric american goob but I don't want to SEEM like itrolleyes.gif
 

 

post #8 of 9

Iranian women can ski, among others.   I think with anyone from a different background, asking what they need in terms of dealing with diet restrictions, etc. is polite, but she likely is used to dealing with that everyday.  Since she plays field hockey, she's already used to sports in the context of whatever rules of modesty she specifically needs to observe. 

 

There certainly may be more of a potential bundle of issues the greater the differentness of religious and cultural traditions at play in the context of an entire weekend ski trip, but in terms of the ski thing itself, there should not be a problem.

 

If she would need a female instructor, etc. she'd probably know to ask for that.    If she is required to observe the stricture that some people have of not even being in the same area as men while recreating, she'll probably realize that a ski area in the PNW may not be for her. 

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^^^^(on my iPhone and can't get the quote function to work)

See....I'm learning already. It would never have occurred to me that it could be OK to be alone with men in an exam room, but potentially not if you are in a much more open area but "recreating". Short of it is I'm just going to ask her tomorrow if she would like to come up with my family and me for a day trip this winter. Will even offer to spring for a lesson
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