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post #31 of 62

JayT, I think the new Nokia Windows Mobile device has a rockered screen. You should check it out. Of course, like I've said, we all need devices with "float" so they won't sink in the snow and get ruined.

 

I keep a clip-on watch, along with my pass and a whistle tethered to my pants on a retractable leash. Let's me check the time without waiting until I hit the lift or pulling out my phone, plus the whistle may come in handy if I need to get some girl's attention.

post #32 of 62

I've also heard about these new phones, where they've actually flipped the circuits inside the phone upsidedown, and you use the back of the phone instead of the front.  It's really innovative.  wink.gif

post #33 of 62

I get knee problems when I use those.   Do I need chondroitin or glucosamine?

post #34 of 62

I have the Droid 2 global and the wife has the Droid X. They both are easy to see in bright light. I always ski with my Droid, usually my wife takes her work BB as it is smaller and has a less vulnerable screen. The BBs are always easy to see. She just got a new one so I cannot report on winter visablilty. It has been great to use outside this summer.

post #35 of 62

 

Yes, but that's New York bright light; I think  Italian bright light is  more like California bright light.   wink.gif

post #36 of 62
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post

I've noticed that there are clocks at lift shacks, prominently displayed for the public to see.  They usually work pretty well and my gloves and jacket don't usually block my view of them.


Because every lift station has a clock? And every ski resort clock has the correct time? No and no.

 

post #37 of 62
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Because every lift station has a clock? And every ski resort clock has the correct time? No and no.

 



Where I ski most of them do, but I guess I'm not too tied into being exact until lift closing time.

post #38 of 62
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

 

Yes, but that's New York bright light; I think  Italian bright light is  more like California bright light.   wink.gif


Yeah, the real issue is above treeline on a sunny day, though I had problems with my old dumb Nokia phone on the beach too, and the ZTE Android I sampled was unreadable even in the trees on my hike at around 900 meters. 

 

post #39 of 62
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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post

Seriously though, WTF do you stare at a phone on the ski slopes until the point that it's an issue. I pull my phone if I have a call or need to check the time. That's about it.

 

 


Staring is not the issue, unless you've just taken a picture of the hot topless girl that just got her GNAR points. 

For me, it takes a second or two to let my eyes adjust to the screen, especially when you're skiing above tree line.

Lets face it, we use our phones for our camera, to meet up with friends, check the time, .........its not just a phone.

 

 

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Originally Posted by prickly View Post

Yeah, the real issue is above treeline on a sunny day, though I had problems with my old dumb Nokia phone on the beach too, and the ZTE Android I sampled was unreadable even in the trees on my hike at around 900 meters. 

 

I have the iPhone 4 and have no issue with the screen that I can recall........just saying.

 



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They're just OK in powder, don't hold an edge on packed or ice.



 



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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post

JayT, I think the new Nokia Windows Mobile device has a rockered screen. You should check it out. Of course, like I've said, we all need devices with "float" so they won't sink in the snow and get ruined.

 

I keep a clip-on watch, along with my pass and a whistle tethered to my pants on a retractable leash. Let's me check the time without waiting until I hit the lift or pulling out my phone, plus the whistle may come in handy if I need to get some girl's attention.



 



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Originally Posted by JayT View Post

I've also heard about these new phones, where they've actually flipped the circuits inside the phone upsidedown, and you use the back of the phone instead of the front.  It's really innovative.  wink.gif


 

I think you are on to something.  Perhaps it will work well in a Blizzard design wink.gif


 

 

 

 

post #40 of 62

I have my iPhone on my pretty much all the time, even on the slopes. I like the access and I like having tunes. I am not blasting the music but I like having some tunes in the background..it is like skiing with my own theme music. I tried the U-Clear Bluetooth system last year and it is a winner and works very well. I do like some ski related apps like interactive trail maps and GPS based vertical feet counters. 

post #41 of 62
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

I have my iPhone on my pretty much all the time, even on the slopes.


See graph above.

 

post #42 of 62

I have no problem seeing my iphone when its bright out. (if the brightness is set on the highest.)

 

There's a new app that just came out called SnoCru <-link to app store. As of right now it looks amazing. Its more then just a trail map/gps tracker, but you can also see your friends on  map/ chat with them and a lot more. Right now its just in the apple store but I believe it will be coming to the android store as well. 

post #43 of 62
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Originally Posted by QuintinAdam View Post

I have no problem seeing my iphone when its bright out. (if the brightness is set on the highest.)

 

There's a new app that just came out called SnoCru <-link to app store. As of right now it looks amazing. Its more then just a trail map/gps tracker, but you can also see your friends on  map/ chat with them and a lot more. Right now its just in the apple store but I believe it will be coming to the android store as well. 



You know how else you can chat with your friends? By putting your smartphone away and skiing with them.

 

I really hope app/social networking culture stays far away from skiing.

post #44 of 62
Thread Starter 
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I really hope app/social networking culture stays far away from skiing.


Well, you do have over 400 posts on an Internet ski forum. Just saying. 

 

post #45 of 62

 

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Smartphones on Snow

Four years ago I found a Blackberry in the snow at the top of the lift.  It was still on like someone had been using it on the lift and missed attempting to drop it in their pocket as they got off the chair at the top.  I picked it up and gave it to the liftee working the top hut. 

 

As for me, using a trail map at an unfamiliar location or weather alerts on a sketchy day would probably be the only smart phone tools I'd be interested in.  I don't need to see records or data showing where I went or how fast I was going.  I certainly don't need to be pushing buttons or looking at a little screen when there is so much more real nature to be experienced outdoors.  The same goes for bikes, camping and any other sport.  If I want to play with a gadget it will be indoors when there is nothing else to do like in a doctor office waiting room.

 

Edit, I'll also snap an occasional photo with my phone on the mountain.

post #46 of 62
Thread Starter 

I just want to see who's calling me, and be able to pull up numbers -- rescue number for example -- when I want to call. My next phone's going to be an Android, so I just want as much feedback as possible from people using them in sunny, high-glare conditions. Italy's a very sunny place and we ski mostly above treeline. 

post #47 of 62

I think they will be apart of skiing. I Think its an amazing idea. The fact that you can see where your friends are on the mountain. When I go on ski trips with big groups we all ways get split in half or more sometime during the day. When you want to get together its all ways a challenge of misscoumnacations. The ability to see where they are(and if they start moving) is amazing.

 

I mean would you rather have your friends keep calling you calling you are skiing asking where you are at? how to get to that run? to wait there.... I mean i would rather just turn on an app and let them come to me.

 

Plus the fact of haing a trail map right on your phone and one that tells you where you are on the hill, makes you look a lot less of a noob then pulling out a trail map and trying to figure where you are at.

 

Just my thoughts,

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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post

You know how else you can chat with your friends? By putting your smartphone away and skiing with them.

 

I really hope app/social networking culture stays far away from skiing.


 

 

post #48 of 62

That ship has sailed.  Epic Mix.  I don't see it as a bad thing, particularly if you can use it locate people you know on the mountain that day.
 

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I really hope app/social networking culture stays far away from skiing.



 

post #49 of 62
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Originally Posted by QuintinAdam View Post


I mean would you rather have your friends keep calling you calling you are skiing asking where you are at? how to get to that run? to wait there.... I mean i would rather just turn on an app and let them come to me.


 

There are no friends on a good ski day.  Keep up or see you at the car at 5tongue.gif
 

 

post #50 of 62

So who is online right now waiting to order an iPhone?

post #51 of 62
Thread Starter 

To me the issue is pretty simple. I could buy a pair of skis for what the high-end smartphones cost. I'm weighing cheap options only. 

post #52 of 62

Alright I went out and tried my Samsung GS2, when the brightness is turned up I can easily read it in directly sunlight.

 

I don't know if this function is specific to GS2 or other android OS as well, but to change brightness all it takes it to press the notification bar and drag left/right, no need to go in menu and all that.

post #53 of 62
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the research, man. That's a Super Amoled display on that phone. I am hearing that the regular Amoleds blow in sunlight and am hearing mixed things about the older, cheaper TFT. I'm tempted by a Galaxy Ace, which is a good deal here and has TFT. Top of the line smarts seem to all have Super Amoled now.
post #54 of 62

There is no back lit or emmissive display that can compete with the sun *and* work for more than 20 minutes before the battery dies.   Best bet for being wired on a day at the hill is a phone with buttons and voice input + output with a lot of battery life for when you are riding in areas with poor signal (which drains your battery faster).

 

Most android phones will read your text messages to you (driving mode), and have voice recognition so that you can verbally send text messages with just 2 or 3 button presses (far easier than trying to type while wearing glove liners)

 

My weapon of choice would be a blackberry, or one of the waterproof/shockproof Motorola phones (the Defy and Defy+) so that I wouldn't have to worry about KO'ing it during a faceplant.   Something with a SIM card would be nice so that I could just pop it into my 'regular' phone after I get back after a day on the slopes.

 

Failing that, try to ride with people who still remember how to make plans ahead of time like we used to before cell phones were around.  Less fumbling around in my pockets to see who texted me is generally a good thing.

 

As an aside, getting a call from the office while I am on the snowboard isn't always bad.   It usually puts a big sh*t-eating grin on my face when I tell the other party on the line that I am 3/4 across the country riding down a 4,000 ft mountain and probably won't be able to get back to them this week.   HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

post #55 of 62

I have a Droid X and put a Steinheil screen protector on it. The anti-fingerprint ones have a matte finish and dramatically cut down on the glare from the glass. It definitely helps a lot in being able to see it out on the mountain. Here's the link to the one I have (the anti-fingerprint one):

http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/motorola/droid-x/sgp-motorola-droid-x-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html

 

They have screen protectors for a ton of different phones.

post #56 of 62
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Originally Posted by eleeski View Post

My Samsung Galaxy is OK for bright conditions. But in the cold my touch screen won't feel my fingers. Of course when it's that cold I can't feel my fingers either. But I've had to remove the battery to hang up a couple of calls. And I've missed lots of calls because the screen would not notice my input to accept the call.

 


Are you trying to work it with your gloves on?  My experience with 3 different touch screen phones is that they just don't work with gloves, no matter how thin the gloves?

post #57 of 62
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Are you trying to work it with your gloves on?  My experience with 3 different touch screen phones is that they just don't work with gloves, no matter how thin the gloves?



If you really want to fix this, you can get some metallic thread and sew a dot into the fingertip of the glove, right where your fingertip sits inside the glove. You have to sew all the way through the glove, so it would be hard to work with leather gloves. The metallic thread should conduct enough to make the capacitive screen work.

post #58 of 62

I've been saying for a while now that I'm going to invent a ski glove with a half removable tip for your pointer finger.

post #59 of 62

Brilliant

 

post #60 of 62

Thanks Cirque - that's awesome.  I'm surprised some of the glove manufacturers haven't started doing this themselves and promoting it as a feature.

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