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Marmot Membrain Fabric

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Does anyone have experience with Marmot clothing with their Membrain fabric?  Wondering about how waterproof this material is in the real world and how breathable it is as well.

 

Thanks. 

post #2 of 16

Waterproof? Mostly.

Breathable? Not so much.

post #3 of 16

I've got a pair of Marmot Membrain pants that I really do not care for.  They have definitely been waterproof in my experience (and i've had them out in some borderline rain/snow storm days).  But I agree with tromano, they don't seem to breathe all that well.

 

Another issue I have that's not related to the Membrain fabric itself is the DWR on them is total crap.  They wet out very very quickly, and the aftermarket spray-on/wash-in treatments don't seem to last long on this fabric for some reason (I don't they don't last long anyway, but even more so on these pants).  I will definitely not be buying another pair of Marmot pants.

post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 

Any suggestions on a REASONABLY PRICED pair of waterproof/breathable ski pants?  I know there are many suggestions with higher price tags ... looking for something that won't break the bank.

post #5 of 16
TNF HyVent is usually budget priced and about as functional as Membrain. Beyond that, look at store brands like REI/ EMS.
post #6 of 16

what size?

see about Outdoor Research OR, they really make very good stuff reasonably priced.  Salomon, Bonfire, (same company) too  Mtn Hardware is decent.  I think Sierra had some decent Sali pants for sale recently

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Any suggestions on a REASONABLY PRICED pair of waterproof/breathable ski pants?  I know there are many suggestions with higher price tags ... looking for something that won't break the bank.



 

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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post

I've got a pair of Marmot Membrain pants that I really do not care for.  They have definitely been waterproof in my experience (and i've had them out in some borderline rain/snow storm days).  But I agree with tromano, they don't seem to breathe all that well.



Hmm, Membrain was the one where the pores were supposed to expand if you got hotter, right?

I am noticing a possible mechanism where if the outer facing is waterlogged with chilly water of course the pores don't get big enough to breathe- they're being refrigerated on the outside.

I used an original Membrain (with lining, not the 2.5 layer ones with the microdots that don't need inner liners) for about 3 years. Quite decent in brutal cold (-25F with breeze and daytime snowmaking). It got stolen; I replaced it with better and never looked back.
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Salomon, Bonfire, (same company) too.  I think Sierra had some decent Sali pants for sale recently

 



Seconded. The Salomon "Skin" lines as in "Smartskin" etc. are quite solid, quite good value, better than comparably priced Marker, imo.
post #9 of 16
because sitting on a chair on a rainy, sleet blowing day is the ultimate test, pants are hard to compromise with. maybe a high quality pant on sale is the way to go.

since it's been alluded to above (so not a total hijack, sorry) , what is the best thing you can do to re-condition 3 yr old arcteryx goretex pants? They have been 100% waterproof till now. want to protect them. only use them in nasty weather to prolong their life.
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if they are leaking, send them back to Arc' and they will either repair or replace, or if not covered, the charge to recondition is usually very reasonable.

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because sitting on a chair on a rainy, sleet blowing day is the ultimate test, pants are hard to compromise with. maybe a high quality pant on sale is the way to go.
since it's been alluded to above (so not a total hijack, sorry) , what is the best thing you can do to re-condition 3 yr old arcteryx goretex pants? They have been 100% waterproof till now. want to protect them. only use them in nasty weather to prolong their life.


 

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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post


Hmm, Membrain was the one where the pores were supposed to expand if you got hotter, right?
I am noticing a possible mechanism where if the outer facing is waterlogged with chilly water of course the pores don't get big enough to breathe- they're being refrigerated on the outside.
I used an original Membrain (with lining, not the 2.5 layer ones with the microdots that don't need inner liners) for about 3 years. Quite decent in brutal cold (-25F with breeze and daytime snowmaking). It got stolen; I replaced it with better and never looked back.


Don't know how they're supposed to work, but my comment about not breathing well is referring to *before* they wet-out.  Obviously nothing breathes well once the outside fabric is soaked.

post #12 of 16
they don't leak, but waiting for that to start in mid-season is not a good decision; a solid re-condition of the pants would be awesome. thx. biggrin.gif
post #13 of 16

I like nikwax or graingers for Gore-tex

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Sign up to get emails from Sierra Trading Post.  Every couple of days you'll get an email with a %-off coupon.  Shop and be patient...I just picked up a pair of SunIce Gore-Tex pants with thin fleece lining for under $100.  They seem pretty well-made and solid.

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Fixed it.

 

I will say I don't really shop at STp anymore, their shipping is way too expensive (and based on dollars spent not on weight or distance shipped) and their shipping is way too slow. I also have had a few too many times where the product wasn't as advertised and I had to pay to return.  My last purchase was some toe heater packs which came in with an expiration date of January.... nice if you live in the southern hemisphere but not so useful here......

 

 

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Sign up to get emails from Sierra Trading Post.  Every couple of hoursdays you'll get an email with a %-off coupon.  Shop and be patient...I just picked up a pair of SunIce Gore-Tex pants with thin fleece lining for under $100.  They seem pretty well-made and solid.



 

post #16 of 16

I haven't paid for shipping yet but I can't keep an order under $100 (free for orders >$100).  I've never waited more than 5 days for shipping...that seems reasonable to me.

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