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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

I'm heading out to Jackson Hole from New England mid December. I Have only skied in Vermont and with the exception of a few lucky days, have not gotten the chance to ski any real powder. New skis are a must, I am looking for a pair that will serve me for the whole winter. I am an aggressive skier that will be mostly in glades and ungroomed trails (40/60 groomed/ungroomed), weight: 170lbs about 5'9''.

 

I not sure how wide is wide enough, but I am thinking about getting a pair of K2 Silencer's measuring 118/85/109 in either 169cm or 179cm. Will these skis cut it on Jackson? If not any suggestions?


Edited by doogiexiv - 9/26/11 at 10:51pm
post #2 of 9

You're 170lbs and self-described aggressive. You need something at least 180cm and 110mm underfoot for a Jackson ski. For mostly glades, maybe try the ON3P Billy Goat at 186cm, or if you have a lot of money, DPS 112 at 190cm. 

post #3 of 9

hmm,  There are a bunch of skis that will fit this bill.. I am thinking that since you are going out for the season, why not get there and demo a few?  Why rush into a purchase when you have the opportunity to find out what you really like. Contact Skiing-in-jackson "stephen McDonald"  at J-hole sports at the base and he can get you set up. 

post #4 of 9
FWIW, spent 4 days in JH last year after about an 8" dump , and our crew was on S7s, CRJs, Bentchetlers, Czars, Sidestashes, and Gotamas, i.e. ~105-120mm underfoot. Good time was had by all even though we got no more snow. Plan ahead and demos can be had for as little as $20/day.
post #5 of 9

Here's a thought.  I know if I were to take the chance of a lifetime and spend a season anywhere (just anywhere at all) I'd want to make two choices - a wider ski and a harder snow ski - and I'd look for both of them to be flexible in dealing with various conditions.  Not sure of your circumstances (maybe you'll have the luxury to pick powder days, or maybe you'll be skiing every day) or your budget, and you don't say what you're skiiing on now (which could be one half of the pair) but an entire season covers every condition imaginable.

 

Now, I've never been to Jackson Hole, but Bob Peters - a frequent poster who lives (and guides) at Jackson - has described how he spends a lot of his of days on a 70-something ski.  Bob was on Head Supershape Magnums for a couple of years (he's a Head rep) and then the Titan last year, but moves on to a wider ski for deeper days (and everything in between).  Being there for a season it just seems a shame to be compromising on your ski for very many days.  So, you say "a pair that will serve me for the whole winter", but could you stretch the budget (or find deals and/or second hand skis) to buy "two pair that will cover off most conditions over the season?"  There are some great deals kicking around, and two pair stretch over a far greater window.

 

Also, I'm with Finndog.  Demoing is the thing.  If you have a narrow carver that you're happy with then take it with you and demo something once you're there.  You'll get the best of both worlds.

 

Have a great trip.  I'm jealous!

post #6 of 9

When do you plan on arriving?  There is a ski swap at the end of October.  You might find something there.  The prices can be all over the map and it's good to kind of know what you want and what you are willing to pay for it before you get there.  There is also a consignment shop, Headwall Sports, that can have some very good deals.  All of the ski shops are still selling last years stuff pretty cheap in both new and used.  That selection will get more picked over as the season approaches.

 

As far as a one ski quiver goes, there are many choices and they are all compromises of some sort.  I currently like my S7s as a one ski quiver.  I have the 188.  I like them a lot and find them far more versatile than I expected them to be.  I sometimes wish they were stiffer.  I also really liked the Armada JJ when I demoed it last year in the 185.  I think you should not look at anything less than 95 in the waist and more likely 105 and above for a single ski.  I am about your size and currently like skis in the high 170s- low 180s for length.  I used to ski very big and long and found I don't need the length as my technique got better.  Other people disagree and are still into long large skis.  I will usually wait at the bottom for them if I'm in a good moodwink.gif.  Personally I don't like super fat skis.  The S7 at 115 is about as fat as I think I would go.  Many other people disagree with this.  I think fat can be a crutch and super fat is a fad that will swing back in a few years for the non-AK users.  Bob Peters doesn't use fat skis.  I skied for many years in all conditions without them and spent a good part of last season on a 72 waisted ski to shut up the stuporvisers and trainers who were giving me crap about the "elf slippers".

 

I may buy a pair of Sultan 94s this season.  There is a pair very lightly used that I have had my eye on for a while.  I could get them for about $300 w bindings.  They would make a pretty solid one ski quiver if you get them before me.  I am thinking about selling a few of my skis.  I have a pair of 176 Volkl Sumos with Duke bindings and skins that I rarely use.  I also have a pair of 176 Volkl Gotomas that I might part with and a pair of 170 Nordica Jet Fuels.  I'm just thinking about it and they will likely all still be in my garage when you get here.

 

One more thing....  You say 40/60 groomed/ungroomed.  That will change once you are here and see what this place is about.  You will be close to 100% ungroomed and will likely make friends and start skiing OB.  There is also great skiing on Teton Pass.  I would refrain from buying new gear unless you are getting it on a pro-deal and get something used here.  There are lots of skis around.  Use the money you save for an avalanche class and some back country gear.  You will need a transceiver, probe, shovel, and some sort of decent ski pack to carry your stuff in.  If you are in a bind I have several packs that I have never used that I might sell for cheap.

 

Have a great season!  Look me up when you get here.  I might be able to point you in a few directions for work, housing, ski partners, gear, ect....

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks all for the replies. I will def wait until i get to Jackson to demo/buy.

 

Cheers

post #8 of 9

And if you are buying a pass, you will get a JH Ski and Snowboard Club punch card.

Lots of good deals including 1/2 off rental deals from at least 5 different shops.

In a good snow year the 105+/- waist would be a good start.

All good advice above.

post #9 of 9


Advice worth more than you know.  Take Teton up on all of his offers and jsut hope he's in a good mood when you ski with him icon14.gif
 

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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post

When do you plan on arriving?  There is a ski swap at the end of October.  You might find something there.  The prices can be all over the map and it's good to kind of know what you want and what you are willing to pay for it before you get there.  There is also a consignment shop, Headwall Sports, that can have some very good deals.  All of the ski shops are still selling last years stuff pretty cheap in both new and used.  That selection will get more picked over as the season approaches.

 

As far as a one ski quiver goes, there are many choices and they are all compromises of some sort.  I currently like my S7s as a one ski quiver.  I have the 188.  I like them a lot and find them far more versatile than I expected them to be.  I sometimes wish they were stiffer.  I also really liked the Armada JJ when I demoed it last year in the 185.  I think you should not look at anything less than 95 in the waist and more likely 105 and above for a single ski.  I am about your size and currently like skis in the high 170s- low 180s for length.  I used to ski very big and long and found I don't need the length as my technique got better.  Other people disagree and are still into long large skis.  I will usually wait at the bottom for them if I'm in a good moodwink.gif.  Personally I don't like super fat skis.  The S7 at 115 is about as fat as I think I would go.  Many other people disagree with this.  I think fat can be a crutch and super fat is a fad that will swing back in a few years for the non-AK users.  Bob Peters doesn't use fat skis.  I skied for many years in all conditions without them and spent a good part of last season on a 72 waisted ski to shut up the stuporvisers and trainers who were giving me crap about the "elf slippers".

 

I may buy a pair of Sultan 94s this season.  There is a pair very lightly used that I have had my eye on for a while.  I could get them for about $300 w bindings.  They would make a pretty solid one ski quiver if you get them before me.  I am thinking about selling a few of my skis.  I have a pair of 176 Volkl Sumos with Duke bindings and skins that I rarely use.  I also have a pair of 176 Volkl Gotomas that I might part with and a pair of 170 Nordica Jet Fuels.  I'm just thinking about it and they will likely all still be in my garage when you get here.

 

One more thing....  You say 40/60 groomed/ungroomed.  That will change once you are here and see what this place is about.  You will be close to 100% ungroomed and will likely make friends and start skiing OB.  There is also great skiing on Teton Pass.  I would refrain from buying new gear unless you are getting it on a pro-deal and get something used here.  There are lots of skis around.  Use the money you save for an avalanche class and some back country gear.  You will need a transceiver, probe, shovel, and some sort of decent ski pack to carry your stuff in.  If you are in a bind I have several packs that I have never used that I might sell for cheap.

 

Have a great season!  Look me up when you get here.  I might be able to point you in a few directions for work, housing, ski partners, gear, ect....



 

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