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# How Many Days: The New Math

Tired of the worn-out "How Many Days" threads? Not to worry. Mr. Prickly is on it, with a new wrinkle on an old theme.

Here's the thing. A lot of people ski more than I do and, frankly, that pisses me off. So to feel better about the state of things, I've devised a super-scientific, geo-logarithmic system to create an "adjusted" number of ski days per season.

And I've put a lot of effort into this: I came up with the idea this morning, biking to work, and thought about it for, like,  15 minutes.

Here's the formula:
-Take the "raw" number of days you skied last year -- for me, 56, a personal record. That's your "base score."
-Now, add 50 points for every kid you have. 100 points for any kid under 3. Teenagers don't count.
-Do you have a full-time job? Add 100 points. Do you work in the ski industry? Subtract 100 points.
-Give yourself a point for every mile you have to travel for one day of skiing. I have to go about 60 miles, but since I have a house in the mountains, I ski two days on that 60 miles, so 30 points only.

-Speaking of which. That house in the mountains? Costs you 50 points. Live there full-time? Lose 100.

-Travel to the hill by public transportation or car-pooling? Good for you, Jack, you're putting in an effort, and helping the environment. Give yourself, I dunno, 20 points.
-Give yourself 50 points if you're over 40 or under 20. Just 'cause.
-Have you ever had a "career-threatening injury"? Well done on the comeback. Give yourself 25 points for each.
-Do you have a spouse? Knock yourself out, that's 50 points. Does he/she ski? Then it's zero points.
-Do you have a non-skiing significant other (non-spouse)? You lose 100 points, 'cause that's just stupid.

My "adjusted" score for last season on this basis comes out at 411: Wow, I skied a lot!

So, how do other Bears do on this basis? What should be added, changed for the scoring system?

Edited by prickly - 9/26/11 at 7:52am

Just a quick question about the miles-to-the-hill points. Is it based on the miles you have to travel to the nearest proper ski hill, or is it the miles you travelled to the place you actually skied.

If it's the former, I scored 405 with only 15 days of skiing. But, if it's the latter, then I'd score way more than I'm willing to calculate since I flew to Canada for one of those weeks.

And no, I didn't consider the short distance from here to the indoor ski mound (aka, fridge) because I don't consider that proper skiing, terrifying as it is.

I think to be accurate you'd have to total it all up and make a weighted average. Good point, I'll have to recalculate too, 'cause I flew to Canada as well last season.

But, we should probably slap a carbon penalty on there for any air miles.

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I think to be accurate you'd have to total it all up and make a weighted average. Good point, I'll have to recalculate too, 'cause I flew to Canada as well last season.

But, we should probably slap a carbon penalty on there for any air miles.

Ah, but don't other vehicles also burn carbon products?

I think it's easier to base it on distance to the nearest proper ski hill. If people choose to fly halfway across the world rather than the nearest places, that's their choice.

Oh, do I get extra points for giving free lessons to a friend in an indoor ski slope (quite possibly the most terrifying terrain that can be skied or boarded)?

I don't think lesson-giving enters into it, though you could argue for a penalty assessment if said student becomes part of the skiing horde, standing in front of me in the tram line. On the other hand, if it's someone who ends up buying a condo and letting you stay there, well, a credit could be in order.

I'm sticking to my original 411 score from above, 'cause I really don't feel like running any more numbers.

I was thinking more along the lines of getting credit for having to spend two hours in an indoor ski fridge. It's honestly one of the most terrifying experiences you can have on skis. Sometimes, you feel it would be safer to slalom between the oncoming traffic on the drag lift than skiing out on the piste.

Surely I can get some points for that.

Hey, you've already scored a 405, don't get greedy.

427 or something like that

Nice. Wonder if we should contemplate extra points for particularly cold places.

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Nice. Wonder if we should contemplate extra points for particularly cold places.

Wouldn't that go along with the "stupid decisions" like having a non-skiing significant other?

Nah, bad idea. It's not like we're handing out points for living in Alaska or anything, forget that.

I'm a real slacker.  I scored 276.  Can I give myself some extra points because my ski house doesn't have electricity or running water?  I think using an outhouse in the snow should count for something.

Consider extra points for folks who sleep in their car in the parking lot (not RVs).

Good point, sleep in car, let's say, 10 points per night (though if you're sleeping in the car with your non-skiing significant other, well, then I'll give you 20 points for convincing her to do something as dumb as that with no payoff).

Posaune, just interested, what was your "raw" score (or in layman's terms, how many days did you actually ski)?

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Posaune, just interested, what was your "raw" score (or in layman's terms, how many days did you actually ski)?

46.  The lowest total in a while.

Yes, but you have a favorable raw/adjusted score ratio.

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Originally Posted by prickly

Tired of the worn-out "How Many Days" threads? Not to worry. Mr. Prickly is on it, with a new wrinkle on an old theme.

Here's the thing. A lot of people ski more than I do and, frankly, that pisses me off. So to feel better about the state of things, I've devised a super-scientific, geo-logarithmic system to create an "adjusted" number of ski days per season.

And I've put a lot of effort into this: I came up with the idea this morning, biking to work, and thought about it for, like, 10 or 15 minutes.

Here's the formula:
-Take the "raw" number of days you skied last year -- for me, 56, a personal record. That's your "base score."
-Now, add 50 points for every kid you have. 100 points for any kid under 3. Teenagers don't count.
-Do you have a full-time job? Add 100 points. Do you work in the ski industry? Subtract 100 points.
-Give yourself a point for every mile you have to travel for one day of skiing. I have to go about 60 miles, but since I have a house in the mountains, I ski two days on that 60 miles, so 30 points only.

-Speaking of which. That house in the mountains? Costs you 50 points. Live there full-time? Lose 100.

-Travel to the hill by public transportation or car-pooling? Good for you, Jack, you're putting in an effort, and helping the environment. Give yourself, I dunno, 20 points.
-Give yourself 50 points if you're over 40 or under 20. Just 'cause.
-Have you ever had a "career-threatening injury"? Well done on the comeback. Give yourself 25 points for each.
-Do you have a spouse? Knock yourself out, that's 50 points. Does he/she ski? Then it's zero points.
-Do you have a non-skiing significant other (non-spouse)? You lose 100 points, 'cause that's just stupid.

My "adjusted" score for last season on this basis comes out at 411: Wow, I skied a lot!

So, how do other Bears do on this basis? What should be added, changed for the scoring system?

So I work in the ski industry, live in a ski town and have no kids... in my humble opinion I've made a whole lot of good choices to put me where I am. I don't see why I 'lose' points to someone that chose a high paying career in a city and all the accoutrement that goes with it. You know, the trophy wives, the sports cars, the country club membership... the 'kept woman' at an up-town condo, you know the stuff city-folk spend \$\$ on.

Were talking skiing right? Days on snow? Yeah, I thought so.

Why would you lose points for marrying a non-skier but get points for living far away from the mountains? They are both poor life-choices for a skier.

Shouldn't a SKI DAY be worth a little more than a mile of travel? Just sayin'. Perhaps every 'bonus point' should be valued as something like every 250 points = 1 day? I mean, flying from Florida to SLC for 5 days shouldn't be worth more than a full season of skiing 5 days a week, should it?

Edited by Whiteroom - 9/26/11 at 9:19am

How many runs constitute a ski day?  Should someone who works at a mountain and makes one or two runs a day during lunch or slow period get credit for a full day?

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

So I work in the ski industry, live in a ski town and have no kids... in my humble opinion I've made a whole lot of good choices to put me where I am. I don't see why I 'lose' points to someone that chose a high paying career in a city and all the accoutrement that goes with it. You know, the trophy wives, the sports cars, the country club membership... the 'kept woman' at an up-town condo, you know the stuff city-folk spend \$\$ on.

Were talking skiing right? Days on snow? Yeah, I thought so.

Why would you lose points for marrying a non-skier but get points for living far away from the mountains? They are both poor life-choices for a skier.

Shouldn't a SKI DAY be worth a little more than a mile of travel? Just sayin'. Perhaps every 'bonus point' should be valued as something like every 250 points = 1 day? I mean, flying from Florida to SLC for 5 days shouldn't be worth more than a full season of skiing 5 days a week, should it?

I'm not sure if you should lose points or gain points for using the word "accoutrement" in a sentence.

My goal is to get the best of both worlds: a high-paying job in Zurich. City life within an hour or so of serious mountain resorts, as well as direct trains to St. Anton. If I manage to score that, I think I should be declared a winner. (Unfortunately, my last application was turned down just because someone else was more qualified. How stupid is that?)

Edited by CerebralVortex - 9/26/11 at 9:08am

Wow

Last season (2010/2011) I skied only 22 days, but got impressive 8505 points!!!

That's because I had to travel 1600 miles to get to Chile and 6856 to get to British Columbia.

It's tough and expensive to be a Brazilian skier...

Hmmmmm...

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Originally Posted by prickly

Tired of the worn-out "How Many Days" threads? Not to worry. Mr. Prickly is on it, with a new wrinkle on an old theme.

Here's the thing. A lot of people ski more than I do and, frankly, that pisses me off. So to feel better about the state of things, I've devised a super-scientific, geo-logarithmic system to create an "adjusted" number of ski days per season.

And I've put a lot of effort into this: I came up with the idea this morning, biking to work, and thought about it for, like,  15 minutes.

Here's the formula:
-Take the "raw" number of days you skied last year -- for me, 56, a personal record. That's your "base score."
-Now, add 50 points for every kid you have. 100 points for any kid under 3. Teenagers don't count.
-Do you have a full-time job? Add 100 points. Do you work in the ski industry? Subtract 100 points.
-Give yourself a point for every mile you have to travel for one day of skiing. I have to go about 60 miles, but since I have a house in the mountains, I ski two days on that 60 miles, so 30 points only.

-Speaking of which. That house in the mountains? Costs you 50 points. Live there full-time? Lose 100.

-Travel to the hill by public transportation or car-pooling? Good for you, Jack, you're putting in an effort, and helping the environment. Give yourself, I dunno, 20 points.
-Give yourself 50 points if you're over 40 or under 20. Just 'cause.
-Have you ever had a "career-threatening injury"? Well done on the comeback. Give yourself 25 points for each.
-Do you have a spouse? Knock yourself out, that's 50 points. Does he/she ski? Then it's zero points.
-Do you have a non-skiing significant other (non-spouse)? You lose 100 points, 'cause that's just stupid.

My "adjusted" score for last season on this basis comes out at 411: Wow, I skied a lot!

So, how do other Bears do on this basis? What should be added, changed for the scoring system?

No kids or any of that, so I'm still at 145.

I have a "sort-of" full time job, so I add a hundred, but I also have a "part-time" job in the ski industry, so I guess I just subtract that 100, so I'm still at 145.

I guess I live at my "house in the mountains" so I would have to subtract that 100, but I take public transport a lot of the time, so I'm going to subtract 80 instead.  That drops me back to 65.

I'm definitely over 40, so I get to add 50, bringing me up to 115.

Does a blown acl count as a career-threatening injury?  It didn't seem like it at the time and certainly doesn't seem like it now, 20 years later, so I'm saying no points on that one.  Still at 115.

I do have a spouse but she is definitely a skier, so that one's a wash.  Still at 115.

I'm bummed.  Your little exercise cost me 30 ski days.  Now I'm going to be depressed all day.

A brilliant presentation Professor Prickly.  An excellent example of straight forward convoluted thinking.  Have you considered opening your own institute in Geneva to further study this and other equally inane topics?

A question of clarification please, dealing with special requirements.  I am forced to either leave the mountain early, or drive like a bat out of hell, to get back to the hospital before dark.  Failure to be there on time means having to wear that coat with all the buckles in the back for a week.  (Oh how I hate that coat it makes driving very difficult and a good pole plant is absolutely impossible!)   Are there any point benefits or penalties for situations like these?

Personal adjusted score last season was 910; although it may have been 19.  The math gets a little fuzzy you know with all the drugs and shock therapy.  Who took my butterfly net, I left it right over there?

I think everyone adding up these points has a lot of free time...

:D

I hope no one's taking this seriously. Oh, and I forgot to say, any day you ski with Bob Peters, 50 points.
Edited by prickly - 9/26/11 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by prickly

I hope no one's taking this seriously. Oh, and I forgot to say, any day you ski with Bob Peters, 50 points.

Wow.

That brings me up to 7,365 ski days last year.

That's almost enough to make me an outlier.

I feel much better now.

any points for picking up snow bunnies? no? well alright, now i dont have an excuse to stay in the lodge any longer

Alright, I scored 2813 on your scale.

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Originally Posted by prickly

Tired of the worn-out "How Many Days" threads? Not to worry. Mr. Prickly is on it, with a new wrinkle on an old theme.

Here's the thing. A lot of people ski more than I do and, frankly, that pisses me off. So to feel better about the state of things, I've devised a super-scientific, geo-logarithmic system to create an "adjusted" number of ski days per season.

And I've put a lot of effort into this: I came up with the idea this morning, biking to work, and thought about it for, like,  15 minutes.

Here's the formula:
-Take the "raw" number of days you skied last year -- for me, 56, a personal record. That's your "base score."
-Now, add 50 points for every kid you have. 100 points for any kid under 3. Teenagers don't count.
-Do you have a full-time job? Add 100 points. Do you work in the ski industry? Subtract 100 points.
-Give yourself a point for every mile you have to travel for one day of skiing. I have to go about 60 miles, but since I have a house in the mountains, I ski two days on that 60 miles, so 30 points only.

-Speaking of which. That house in the mountains? Costs you 50 points. Live there full-time? Lose 100.

-Travel to the hill by public transportation or car-pooling? Good for you, Jack, you're putting in an effort, and helping the environment. Give yourself, I dunno, 20 points.
-Give yourself 50 points if you're over 40 or under 20. Just 'cause.
-Have you ever had a "career-threatening injury"? Well done on the comeback. Give yourself 25 points for each.
-Do you have a spouse? Knock yourself out, that's 50 points. Does he/she ski? Then it's zero points.
-Do you have a non-skiing significant other (non-spouse)? You lose 100 points, 'cause that's just stupid.

My "adjusted" score for last season on this basis comes out at 411: Wow, I skied a lot!

So, how do other Bears do on this basis? What should be added, changed for the scoring system?

What it comes down to is a skied 150+ days last year most bell to bell and not amount of corporate BS WILL NEVER GET YOUR THERE!

I am not going to make up some scale saying how I make more money than you because I do not.

Bummer.  Only 881.  I guess it still sounds better than the actual 18 days that I got in.

My score is a 4875. Driving to SLC to ski helped out a bit!

I think people should get +87.24pts for marrying a non-skiing spouse...and not negative points!

Mrs. Smarty comes along and does work in the lodge.  When Smarty Jr. needs some cocoa, lunch, or a break...he runs in and she watches him while I get in a bunch of extra bump runs (do I get say +39.8 for becoming better in the bumps???).

Surely the extra runs I get = extra points and smartiness for marrying the non-skiing spouse.

-Smarty

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