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Pilgrims vs. Prophet 90's - and others

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hola rippers,


I know the P90's carve well, but the construction of the Pilgrims makes me think they hold a better edge. Has anyone skied both? Also, how are the Pilgrims on switch?




(And In case someone wants to help me pick new skis...)


I'm getting some up-to-date boards this year. I live on the East Coast with lots of ice and 6'2" at 180lbs, about 180 on a ski. I'm getting into amateur slalom but fun is still my focus: I want a twin tip, all-mountain ski. I don't care about winning, just being competitive. I play on trails and dip into the trees, so some carving skis with powder ability would be ideal. Typical day: 10% park, no rails or boxes (I really want to learn to do a hand drag, but probably not possible on a carving ski)


Also, I like the idea of a tapered tail and camber with rocker design. From what I've read, I don't want capped skis.


My criteria:

  • Maximum 92 waist
  • Functional twin tips
  • Good carvers
  • Slalom friendly, but obviously not purpose built
  • Some playability (I'd love some butter zone but I'll wait for my second pair for that.)



Other considerations:

  Volkl: Kendo

  Line: Chronics - [not the blend] I love the '12 art. (Why are they ABS/sidewall and not capped?)

  Armada: Alpha 1

                El Rey

                Triumph - any know how well these carve and go switch?


Let me know if I'm barking up the wrong trees with the P90 and pilgrim. All feedback is greatly appreciated!



Edited by StylySmooth - 9/24/11 at 1:37pm
post #2 of 8

Hi, Welcome to EpicSki.


I have not skied the Line Prophet 90, but I've skied the Celebrity 90 (women's version) and the Pilgrim.    IMHO the Celeb 90 was a bit more nimble and playful, where the Pilgrim is a little bit more powerful.



post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks a lot for the response and the welcome! I've really enjoyed reading the forums, great info.


I see that the P90 and Celeb 90 have same face dimensions, but different sidecuts for gender weight differences, i assume. Did you feel like the Pilgrims could be a casual slalom ski? Some reviews say they're extremely nimble but hearing that they're solid from you is reassuring for high speeds.

post #4 of 8

I didn't really take the Pilgrims at high speeds, and keep in mind I was comparing to most of the women's specific skis that I was demoing at the time. 

I wouldn't say that the Pilgrim isn't nimble.   Just that, comparing it to the Celebrity 90, the Pilgrim felt like it was a bit more RAWR when encountering crud.



Hoping that someone who's skied it can weigh in as well, to give you a better comparison.



post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 

Cool. I read the same thing about the P90 before they put metal plates in it... might be what the Celeb is missing. Thanks a lot.

post #6 of 8

I fingered some Pilgrims this weekendduck.gif


They seemed like nice skis

post #7 of 8

^ Heh.  They are nice skis, in fact they're very nice skis.  And I've skied them, but I'm not a racer or a parkster and I haven't skied the Prophet 90s so I don't feel like I can give an answer to the OP that would address his concerns.  I think he wants a lot from one ski - something that does both park and racing very well and also carving and powder and tapered tail and rocker.  That covers a lot of territory, some of it kind of contradictory.  It might have been easier to just type "quiver of one."


FWIW, I found the Pilgrim to be very stable with great edge control, and beautifully made.  

post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 

Malazan... I've only played footsie with my skis.


Bob, thanks for the input. I agree, I'm asking too much from one pair. I'm really just trying to find a really versatile carving ski. I'm not expecting a great park ski by any means. Other reviews I read came to the same conclusion as you... I've even heard them deemed "great, all-round slalom ski."

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