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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Here are my specs:

 

6'0", 180 M

lower intermediate skier hoping to advance

Age 44

Exclusively East Coast (Poconos and Vermont)

 

Currently, stick to groomers...would love to move on to a little off-piste after I am good enough.  I have no idea what the different skill levels mean when people say they are a "level 6" or a "level 7-8". With respect to me, greens are easy, I can ski all blues and they are very fun and am just starting to ski blacks..no moguls or off piste.  What level is that? 

 

Last season I was on some seasonal rentals from local ski shop...I think they are 10 year old Elans with a 62mm waiste at 168 (couldnt find the exact model online anywhere due to their age).

 

I am fairly athletic, just not a very good skier although I find skiing a blast and thus hope to get better.

 

Here are the skis that I have identified:

 

1.  2011 Blizzard Magnums - Either 7.6 or 8.1 in 170 or 172

 

2.  2011 Atomic Blackeye TI - 174 (82mm waist)

 

3.  2010 Atomic Blackeye TI - 171 (79 mm waist)

 

4.  2011 K2 Rictors - 167 or 174 (80 mm)

 

5.  2011 Atomic Smoke TI - 171 (77mm)

 

First question...are these skis too wide for me (too much of a jump from 62 to around 80)?  Everything I read indicates that wide skis today carve very well on the groomers but also provide better skiing in crud, powder and, if I get adventureous, a little off-piste.

 

Next question, which of these skis do you recommend?  I wont have a chance to demo before the season as I plan on buying while the deals are still good.  I am unsure regarding length for the Rictors and the Mag 8.1 (174 and 172)...wondering if I should drop down a length on those too 167/165 (is it ok to step up in ski level, length and width all at the same time)?

 

Also, I got fitted for and purchased boots last year (100 Flex Atomic Hawx) after following the advice in this forum to buy boots first.

 

Thanks for the assistance in advance!

 

post #2 of 11

80mm is not considered "fat" and most people would not even consider them a "mid-fat." 

post #3 of 11

If you're "not very good" and still "stick to groomers", I recommend you stick w/ the skis you have. I skied my 15yr old Elans til 2 years ago. They're just fine for groomers. Get a little better and figure out what type of skiing you're going to want to do then people here can help you find the best ski for you. 

post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 

Nobueno - I think you missed that I dont own the skis I used last winter.

 

I dont really want to pay the local shop another $150 for a second year of seasonal rentals (that would be $300 over two years) which are 10 year old Elans.  I thought it might make sense economically to buy 2010 or 2011 demo models or leftovers (for about $300) that I can use and grow into over the next several years.

 

Does that make sense or am I missing something?

post #5 of 11

no you are on the right track. for EC Pocono's don't over think this. anything in the 70's or low 80's is fine. For your size don't go below a 172/4.  A 15 or even 10 year old ski is great for patio furniture but the changes in design make these obsolete.  i like the bliz' 7.6's but there a lot of good intermediate advanced intermediate skis out there that will do just fine. Some of the Fischer progressors and heads are great choices too.  


Edited by Finndog - 9/22/11 at 3:05pm
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no you are on the right track. for EC Pocono's don't over think this. anything in the 70's or low 80's is fine. For your size don't go below a 172/4.  A 15 or even 10 year old ski is great for patio furniture but the changes in design make these obsolete.  i like the bliz' 7.6's but there a lot of good intermediate advanced intermediate skis out there that will do just fine. Some of the Fischer progressors and heads are great choices too.  


Finn,

You are the man...all of you guys (trekchik not withstanding) are awesome for giving advice on so many different types of questions...very cool...

post #7 of 11
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Finn,

You are the man...


Awesome! Now you can join the club with DSloan and me.

 

post #8 of 11

Powder7.com has a lot of demos that might be of interest to you.  I also have a set of Volkl AC20's in a 170cm/74mm waist that I used for one season and are in great shape if you are interested.  

 

I definitely recommend picking up your own skis - intermediates who are looking to challenge themselves to improve probably have as a big of a potential "gear gap" as anybody because we have less of a sense of how our gear and technique (or lack of technique) go together and far less capability to overcome gear deficiencies like too big boots.  We are at constant risk of using better gear to mask bad habits or relying on older gear waiting to improve before we upgrade, the latter of which particularly extends both the learning curve and the fun curve.  

 

I bought Kastle LX82's in 172cm with the notion of moving up to a ski that better reflects the skier I want to be, along with the fact that my wife as a 5'7" 140 lb L8 skier who prefers the frontside (as in not trees and big moguls) is going to steal them before I outgrow them anyway (I'm 6'2" 170 lbs, 41 years old, starting skiing last season).

 

I'm off to boots now myself, having been completely sucked in biggrin.gif to the Fischer Vacuum thread after a season of boot fitment issues that I won't repeat again.  Good luck!

post #9 of 11



Hmm, does it get any better than this?  I think I shall go home early and have a couple beers and not risk F'ing up this day.... icon14.gif  ( I know its a joke but I'm going with it..for the record, this may be the first time "you are the man" may have been used in the correct vernacular!  :) ) 

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Finn,

You are the man...all of you guys (trekchik not withstanding) are awesome for giving advice on so many different types of questions...very cool...



 



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Awesome! Now you can join the club with DSloan and me.

 



 


Edited by Finndog - 9/23/11 at 10:21am
post #10 of 11

Hey Someone needs to put TC in the club....

post #11 of 11

I think you'd probably be happy with the K2 Rictors.  Pretty forgiving, easy to ski, reasonable edge grip on the firm.  The rocker makes soft snow more managable and lowers the effective length of the ski on hardpack.  They get a little squirrelly at speed, but if you're not skiing fast they'll be fine.  80mm is a little slower edge-to-edge than a more narrow waisted ski, but not worth worrying about unless you're running gates.

 

 

Not familiar with the others...

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