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Recommend a 2nd ski for powder, trees, and touring (plus boots and bindings)

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I'm 34 years old, have been skiing for 30 years, 175 pounds, and am very proficient at high-speed carving, moguls, and steep corn.  My weaknesses are powder, trees, and super-narrow chutes.

 

I had Atomic Metron B5's until I broke them a couple of years ago, and have been skiing Volkl AC50's since.  Fantastic skis in hardpack, and pretty good in moguls except the weight.  Powder and trees...not so good.  I have a tough time keeping the tips up in pow, and in trees, particularly in soft snow, it takes a bit to load them up making them not very responsive.

 

My main area is Taos, but I also make it to Wolf Creek, Silverton, Durango, and Telluride a few times per year each.  At Taos, Wolf Creek, and Silverton I do a lot of hiking.  Most of the times I'm in hardpack and will continue to use my AC50s, but I want something that will better in the powder and trees, but still able to play around a bit on moguls and hardpack after things get skied out.  Something lighter would be nice, too.  Oh yeah- I have a dinky ski area 1/2 hour away (Sandia Peak), and my friends like to skin up after work and ski down with bike lights.  I'd like to start doing that as well, so something AT-able would be nice, too.  It looks like the Salomon Quest 12 or 14 boots along with Marker Baron 13 bindings would fit the bill.

 

Here are skis I'm considering.

 

Volkl Mantra would be a good choice for the versatility, but then thought it might be a bit too close to what I already have.

K2 Coomback seems great for the powder and touring, but not so great for hardpack.  I heard a good alternative is the....

K2 Sidestash.  Like the Coomback, but wider AND stiffer.  These seem REALLY enticing- right up my ally.  Other options

 

Line Prophet 98.  Seems to split the difference between the Coomback and Mantra

Volkl Gotama.  Might be a bit wide

Rossi S5.  Don't know much about it

Line Influence 105.  Again- don't know much

 

Suggestions?

 

 


Edited by carve - 9/18/11 at 10:28am
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You are kinda in the same boat as me. I have AC40's and the Prophet 100's but was looking for something shorter and wider and turny for real tight eastern trees. (Icelantic nomads in the 168 maybe???) THe prophets are  the 186 with the Barons and it is a nice setup for soft stuff and shorter treks. They float pretty well but will sink in deeper stuff.

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Originally Posted by brn2skifst View Post

You are kinda in the same boat as me. I have AC40's and the Prophet 100's but was looking for something shorter and wider and turny for real tight eastern trees. (Icelantic nomads in the 168 maybe???) THe prophets are  the 186 with the Barons and it is a nice setup for soft stuff and shorter treks. They float pretty well but will sink in deeper stuff.



A ski doesn't have to be shorter to be maneuverable for tight tree's. It just has to be the right ski.

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I'd say go with the sidestash. sounds perfect for you

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Originally Posted by carve View Post

I'm 34 years old, have been skiing for 30 years, 175 pounds, and am very proficient at high-speed carving, moguls, and steep corn.  My weaknesses are powder, trees, and super-narrow chutes.

 

I had Atomic Metron B5's until I broke them a couple of years ago, and have been skiing Volkl AC50's since.  Fantastic skis in hardpack, and pretty good in moguls except the weight.  Powder and trees...not so good.  I have a tough time keeping the tips up in pow, and in trees, particularly in soft snow, it takes a bit to load them up making them not very responsive.

 

My main area is Taos, but I also make it to Wolf Creek, Silverton, Durango, and Telluride a few times per year each.  At Taos, Wolf Creek, and Silverton I do a lot of hiking.  Most of the times I'm in hardpack and will continue to use my AC50s, but I want something that will better in the powder and trees, but still able to play around a bit on moguls and hardpack after things get skied out.  Something lighter would be nice, too.  Oh yeah- I have a dinky ski area 1/2 hour away (Sandia Peak), and my friends like to skin up after work and ski down with bike lights.  I'd like to start doing that as well, so something AT-able would be nice, too.  It looks like the Salomon Quest 12 or 14 boots along with Marker Baron 13 bindings would fit the bill.

 

Here are skis I'm considering.

 

Volkl Mantra would be a good choice for the versatility, but then thought it might be a bit too close to what I already have.

K2 Coomback seems great for the powder and touring, but not so great for hardpack.  I heard a good alternative is the....

K2 Sidestash.  Like the Coomback, but wider AND stiffer.  These seem REALLY enticing- right up my ally.  Other options

 

Line Prophet 98.  Seems to split the difference between the Coomback and Mantra

Volkl Gotama.  Might be a bit wide

Rossi S5.  Don't know much about it

Line Influence 105.  Again- don't know much

 

Suggestions?

 

 



 

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Has anyone out there tried the sidestash AND the coomback?  How do they compare?

post #6 of 17

JT Holmes could ski any K2 he wants and he prefers the sidestash.  Check out his review/comments on youtube.  One of the best videos on both skis, IMHO.

post #7 of 17

The 105 Line Influence is a great tree ski. Turns quickly when fore pressured and skis well from the middle.  Make sure you try this ski. I love this ski.

 A little slower edge to edge and very similar is the 115 but it seems to be a little past the  tipping point of usefulness on harder surfaces.  They both have the same profile with the 115 just a little bigger all around and makes a nice soft snow/trees/deeper days ski.

post #8 of 17

lets try to go back to what you really want

 

1- a ski for tracked out but soft inbounds

 

2- a ski for touring

 

3- a powder ski

 

4- something that is versatile "enough" for all above?  can you say where you want the emphasis?

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lets try to go back to what you really want

 

1- a ski for tracked out but soft inbounds

 

2- a ski for touring

 

3- a powder ski

 

4- something that is versatile "enough" for all above?  can you say where you want the emphasis?

 

Think he is still listening? This was posted 10 moths ago. 

 

The balance is touring & pow (where a softer lighter ski is preferred) vs. skied out resort conditions (where a more powerful and heavy ski per preferred). How many days of each in a season? Then split that difference. Could be anything from a Dynafit Stoke to a metal laminate freeride ski. 

 

My solution to this conundrum is Blizzard the One but then I tour 4 or so days a month and resort ski 10 or so per month (split among-st the other skis I have in the quiver). 


Edited by tromano - 7/29/12 at 8:57am
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Think he is still listening? This was posted 10 moths ago. 

 

Probably not. I missed that too. It's the shopping season and there are some new models that fit this oft answered question .

post #11 of 17

pleading guilty to not paying attention...  btw- what do the number of moths have to do with ski selection? biggrin.gif  (see I paid attention)

post #12 of 17

ON3P Billy Goat Tour

post #13 of 17

THIS IS  DEAD THREAD! 

post #14 of 17

IT'S STILL ALIVE!!!!!!   But the OP has passed on.Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

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IT'S STILL ALIVE!!!!!!   But the OP has passed on.Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

 

 

Oh Gary, its OK to let this go, he would have wanted it this way. In time you will come to understand and accept this.  biggrin.gif

post #16 of 17

It's sad , but it happens and we must accept this great loss. Ski on brother carve in the heavenly slopes of life.

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