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Please HELP! I need advice choosing my wife's skis (birthday gift) !!!

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Guys and Girls, 

SO here is the deal. My wife has been skiing for 3 years now on her standard K2 skis. Last year when we woke up to 12 inches of fresh snow at Silver Mt. I dragged her into the shop and had her tried Volkl Kiku - She absolutely loved them in powder and automatically assumed she wants them. Now, it was her first and the only powder day. I ski 2011 gotama and know that Kiku is very same ski ,therefore you have to really "Ski" them on hard pack. I know my wife will stay 80% time on the hard pack and I kind of hate to buy her Kiku because it will be a workout for her, at the same time, I don't want her to suffer on those nice powder days that we all are waiting for. I personally ski my goats all season as the only skis... Took some getting used to but I have no problem. Realizing that there are other Volkl Models, I am also looking at FUEGO, but I am not sure how well will it do in powder for her.... Any thoughts or suggestions?? I want her to have fun in powder and rocker technology seems to help a lot, at the same time I don't want her to be suffering on the groomed runs.... Kind of a delema. The birthday is in 3 weeks... 

post #2 of 19

My advice is don't buy her skis.  Instead, get busy with whatever computer graphics program you have and print out a "gift certificate" that she can cash in later, after she's had a chance to demo more skis.  This is absolutely not a decision you can make.  Also, why limit her to only Volkl?

post #3 of 19

The only similarity with the Kiku and the Fuego is that they both have Volkl written on the topskin. There are many skis that will be very good one ski quiver skis that will be 90% of the Kiku and much more forgiving than the Fuego and more performance oriented than her "standard" K2's. 

post #4 of 19

I couldn't agree with the guys here more!

Get her a demo day and a gift certificate to get skis of her choice.  

 

There are some awesome skis out there that may put as big of a grin on her face as the Kiku did, if not bigger, and may be a better all mountain ski for her general needs.

 

As for the Fuego, like Phil said, the only similarity is one is a corvette and the other is a Jeep wrangler.

 

If you're insisting on getting her a ski for her gift, you're better off getting her something like the Blizzard Crush, or Salomon Geisha, or Line Celebrity 100.........all better all mountain skis that do decent on the occasional powder days, where the Kiku is more of a powder ski that will not necessarily be good for her on the groomer days.

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for your posts. I've been a fan of Volkl , love my goats, and ski them well in any conditions,  but realizing that you are right, she won't enjoy powder ski on a normal Mission Ridge day. I will look at other options and if I delay it long enough, then gift certificate will be my option. So what skis would you suggest that are   "  90% of the Kiku and much more forgiving than the Fuego and more performance oriented than her "standard" K2's." ???? 

Trekchick gad some good ideas and I am already researching those (thank you Treckchick)... 

post #6 of 19

I'm afraid you are missing the point.  You are removing your wife's opinion from this and that isn't a good idea.  You cannot decide what she will like.  Let her choose and she will like the result much better.

post #7 of 19

Remember this one thing......

For everything you ask a ski to do, it gives up something else.

 

That being said, my #1 pick of all the skis I demo'd for the 2012 line up is the Blizzard Black Pearl.

 

If you're not familiar with it, its the women's version of the Blizzard Bushwacker, the Black Pearl is designed with the flip core technology with rocketed tip and tail, but with traditional camber.  I've skied it on firm groomers, spring crud, 3' deep powder, and tracked out powder.  

The Black Pearl really is a ski that can do it all. 

 

If you're interested in a deal on a pair, shoot me a pm.  

 

post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

My advice is don't buy her skis.  Instead, get busy with whatever computer graphics program you have and print out a "gift certificate" that she can cash in later, after she's had a chance to demo more skis.  This is absolutely not a decision you can make.  Also, why limit her to only Volkl?


This is what we do for these sort of gift situations.

 

Also consider my experience: Last season my wife needed (yes, needed) to replace her skis. I "knew" which skis would work for her. So we demoed my top choices for her. She said they were "OK".

 

Then the shop guy suggested the Rossi S86w. Not on my list. Halfway down the first run she stopped and said, "Now this is what I am talking about!" An hour later we bought the S86w mounted up with Marker bindings. She loves those skis.
 

 

post #9 of 19

I agree with everyone who said, "get a gift certificate"...That being said, be prepared to do lots of demo daysyahoo.gif

post #10 of 19

A slightly different perspective:

 

If I had to pick out new skis, I'd throw up my hands in frustration because I'm bored to tears by gear talk.  Really. 

 

Not knowing your wife who may dig gear talk, let me just say this.  First, bless your heart for wanting to give her the gift of skis:  very cool and generous!  If she loves learning about gear and truly understands what distinguishes one ski from the next and how it can help her ski more confidently, even better.  But if she tends to be more about skiing than the skis, help her out by offering her a "short-list" of skis that might help her, given her current ski and confidence levels.  And, as others here have suggested, have her demo the skis to see which ones really tickle her. 

 

My husband is a former ski pro (teacher & coach), is extremely knowledgeable about skis and what ski(s) will help me advance my skiing.  We bought me 2 new pairs last season and I never demoed them because I trusted his judgment.  He does extensive research, learns about their composition, and reads reviews.  Then off to the ski shop to look at them, flex them, and talk to other pros about them.

 

True story:  I demo'ed a pair of Elan Spices a couple of years ago.  My husband must have asked me 10 times that day, "How do they feel?  How do they ski?"  All I could tell him was "Different...they seem okay...I can't really tell."  I'm not a real confident skier, and I struggled with them (I struggled all day because it was foggy, low-light conditions, and more powder than I'd tried before).  However, what he saw was new and improved movement patterns, new ability to ski powdery conditions, and other things that I was frankly unaware of because "IT FELT DIFFERENT!"   

 

A good pro can watch your wife ski, assess her skill level and movement patterns, and offer some recommendations for new skis.  Having a pro watch her demo skis may be helpful as it was for me because I translated "different" to mean "yucky" but an expert translated "different" to "breakthrough."

 

My 2.5 cents---and I hope she absolutely loves whatever skis you buy for her! 

post #11 of 19

I bought my wife Black Pearls sight unseen.  I'll let you know in a few months how it goes.  She's the kind of person who would say "don't make this complicated" if I asked her to demo and compare.  All I knew is that she didn't want to sink in powder anymore and the reviews were great for a women's one-ski-quiver.

post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Remember this one thing......

For everything you ask a ski to do, it gives up something else.

 

That being said, my #1 pick of all the skis I demo'd for the 2012 line up is the Blizzard Black Pearl.

 

If you're not familiar with it, its the women's version of the Blizzard Bushwacker, the Black Pearl is designed with the flip core technology with rocketed tip and tail, but with traditional camber.  I've skied it on firm groomers, spring crud, 3' deep powder, and tracked out powder.  

The Black Pearl really is a ski that can do it all. 

 

If you're interested in a deal on a pair, shoot me a pm.  

 



Buy this one. I was a Volkl skier for a long time, I never skied the Kikus, but have been on the Auras since the year they came out. And the Queen Attivas before that, and two other Volkls before that... Last year I skied three Blizzard skis, including the Crush and the Black Pearl/Bushwacker. If she liked the Kikus, there is no reason she won't like those Black Pearls. (And if she ends up needing a pair of powder boards, too, then you already know what to buy.) I heard somewhere that a bunch of Volkl engineers jumped ship to Blizzard a few years ago? Don't know for sure, but I've been very happy with the Crushes. (which is also a possibility ... but my hunch is Black Pearl)

post #13 of 19

I'm curious, and I address this to TC or Phil, have you had any women pre-order Blizzard Bonafides? Are  'Bones'  a viable option for women looking for something in the 100mm width? Reason I ask, I'm looking to add one more ski to my girls quiver of skis.My daughter(15 yr.5'5" 120# speed demon) skis K2 Burnin Luv's and my wife(55yr 5'6" 140#,advanced/expert but controlled) skis Volkl Aura's. Both are quite happy with their skis. I can't get my daughter to try the Aura's but I  think she would really like them. Anyway by adding something like the Bones, they'd have all the bases covered: carver, Sierra high pressure weather ski and the Bones for powder.What do you think ?

post #14 of 19

We have had a few women order the Bonafides, but they've been women with an 'athletic build'

They do come in a 166, which is the length that I have the Black Pearls, and may be short enough for her to ski.  What length does she normally ski?

 

See the product page for more details ......

http://www.epicski.com/products/2012-blizzard-bonafide-ski

post #15 of 19

My wife is on 163 Aura's so the 166's would be fine if they're not too stiff. Stiffness might be the issue ?

post #16 of 19

IMHO the Bonafide is more compliant than the Aura, so she shouldn't have a problem with it.  

 

As always YMMV. smile.gif

post #17 of 19

I gather you usually ski Mission. In a good year Mission delivers some pretty nice continental-ish snow. And you have one of the semi-secret magic maritime powder locations in the lower 48 just up the road at Stevens. So you have access to a broad range of snow & if you gravitate toward powder, there is a lot to be had up highway 2 if you guys get to where you want that.

 

In that context, the PNW Cascade formula is simple: 105 or fatter. Rockered tip and tail. Then it comes down to details.

 

The Kiku is a nice all around ski. I think that once you get used to it, the Gotama/Kiku is a better firm snow ski than most think. This seems consistent with your experience. This year they have flattened it a bit underfoot, which should make it a bit more mellow. For my .02, it is a better choice for what you are shopping for than any sub-100 ski out there.

 

At that general end of the Cascade "one ski quiver" width spectrum, I'd also look at the Praxis BC. It is actually a great all around alpine ski. It skis an amazing range of snow well. It skis "easy", but has pounded through big mountain comps. For the next few weeks, they remain a sick deal with pre-season pricing and the 10% "EPIC" code discount on top of that. 

 

Going a bit fatter,  the K2 Miss Directed (=Obsethed), either of the narrower waisted Salomon Rocker 2 sizes, Rossi S7 family, Armada VJJ/JJ and DPS Yvette/112RP (probably hybrid) are all worth a serious look as modern Cascade one ski quiver type skis. It'd be hard to go too wrong - other than with respect to personal preference - with any of that crop.

 

All of these will require a bit of getting used to. But all of them are "on mission" in a way no narrower or non-rockered ski will be for this part of the world.

 

I don't know what you have access to in Leavenworth, so maybe you have a decent enough local source of info and inventory there. But if your choices are limited and you are going to be over to the west side sometime soon, you might think about swinging by evo in Seattle. They know this genre of ski super well.  

 


Edited by spindrift - 9/18/11 at 8:49pm
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 

Lol, sounds like something we experienced with Kiku at 12 inches of powder. She used to freak out on powder days and stay home, watching her ripping thru it with a smile was priceless and I didn't have to be an expert to say that it was an improvement. Yet, when I asked her how do they ski, she said "I don't know, but they don't sink...." Thanks for your imput everyone! I am doing a serious research on the skis that everyone mentioned, I know that she is one of those who will say "You are making this complicated, it is just a ski" ..... 

 


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarCube View Post

A slightly different perspective:

 

If I had to pick out new skis, I'd throw up my hands in frustration because I'm bored to tears by gear talk.  Really. 

 

Not knowing your wife who may dig gear talk, let me just say this.  First, bless your heart for wanting to give her the gift of skis:  very cool and generous!  If she loves learning about gear and truly understands what distinguishes one ski from the next and how it can help her ski more confidently, even better.  But if she tends to be more about skiing than the skis, help her out by offering her a "short-list" of skis that might help her, given her current ski and confidence levels.  And, as others here have suggested, have her demo the skis to see which ones really tickle her. 

 

My husband is a former ski pro (teacher & coach), is extremely knowledgeable about skis and what ski(s) will help me advance my skiing.  We bought me 2 new pairs last season and I never demoed them because I trusted his judgment.  He does extensive research, learns about their composition, and reads reviews.  Then off to the ski shop to look at them, flex them, and talk to other pros about them.

 

True story:  I demo'ed a pair of Elan Spices a couple of years ago.  My husband must have asked me 10 times that day, "How do they feel?  How do they ski?"  All I could tell him was "Different...they seem okay...I can't really tell."  I'm not a real confident skier, and I struggled with them (I struggled all day because it was foggy, low-light conditions, and more powder than I'd tried before).  However, what he saw was new and improved movement patterns, new ability to ski powdery conditions, and other things that I was frankly unaware of because "IT FELT DIFFERENT!"   

 

A good pro can watch your wife ski, assess her skill level and movement patterns, and offer some recommendations for new skis.  Having a pro watch her demo skis may be helpful as it was for me because I translated "different" to mean "yucky" but an expert translated "different" to "breakthrough."

 

My 2.5 cents---and I hope she absolutely loves whatever skis you buy for her! 



 

post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 


You right, Mission, White and Silver (our pass has discounts there ) , we will visit Stevens this winter. 

Quote:
Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

I gather you usually ski Mission. In a good year Mission delivers some pretty nice continental-ish snow. And you have one of the semi-secret magic maritime powder locations in the lower 48 just up the road at Stevens. So you have access to a broad range of snow & if you gravitate toward powder, there is a lot to be had up highway 2 if you guys get to where you want that.

 

In that context, the PNW Cascade formula is simple: 105 or fatter. Rockered tip and tail. Then it comes down to details.

 

The Kiku is a nice all around ski. I think that once you get used to it, the Gotama/Kiku is a better firm snow ski than most think. This seems consistent with your experience. This year they have flattened it a bit underfoot, which should make it a bit more mellow. For my .02, it is a better choice for what you are shopping for than any sub-100 ski out there.

 

At that general end of the Cascade "one ski quiver" width spectrum, I'd also look at the Praxis BC. It is actually a great all around alpine ski. It skis an amazing range of snow well. It skis "easy", but has pounded through big mountain comps. For the next few weeks, they remain a sick deal with pre-season pricing and the 10% "EPIC" code discount on top of that. 

 

Going a bit fatter,  the K2 Miss Directed (=Obsethed), either of the narrower waisted Salomon Rocker 2 sizes, Rossi S7 family, Armada VJJ/JJ and DPS Yvette/112RP (probably hybrid) are all worth a serious look as modern Cascade one ski quiver type skis. It'd be hard to go too wrong - other than with respect to personal preference - with any of that crop.

 

All of these will require a bit of getting used to. But all of them are "on mission" in a way no narrower or non-rockered ski will be for this part of the world.

 

I don't know what you have access to in Leavenworth, so maybe you have a decent enough local source of info and inventory there. But if your choices are limited and you are going to be over to the west side sometime soon, you might think about swinging by evo in Seattle. They know this genre of ski super well.  

 



 

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