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custom boot linings: worth it in your op for improving skiing?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

thinking of getting the sure foot liners or something from a shop in whistler ( top shelf industries)

in terms of custom liners...

 

why? despite constant tweeking my boots never fit snug enough

(or if they do fit on some areas, they're either too loose or too tight on other areas)

 

...currently use the dalbelo cross fit boots.

 I find more and more that I Iike as snug a fit as possible for

maximum ski performance I'm finding as i move to advanced intermediate level.

 

i've also heard good things on the power straps too.

 

so in your op, has a custom liner made a difference

(I already have custom insoles done last yr

 which really took away pain in my feet)

 

here's hoping to another el nina year!

 

post #2 of 17

A custom liner 'can' help with fit issues, but it all depends on how much more snug you want to get.  Your best bet may be to have a good fitter analyze your foot and your skiing to find the right fit for you.

 

The Cross may not be the right boot for you. 

 

(emphasis on "may")

 

post #3 of 17

What she said. You need to find a boot fitter that will look at your feet, watch you walk, inspect the shoes you were everyday, check your stance, knee and leg angles, then he/she wil ask you about your skiing, were you want to go with it, then will recommend a few boots you should be wearing. If you don't start there, its a crap shoot.

 

You need to get the right boot.

 

I have been going to the same boot fitter for almost 20 years, he goes thru the same process everytime with me.

 

About this time last year, he spent over 2 hours with my GF, basically a never ever, fitting her to a entry level boot. She never complained about her feet hurting and was very comfortable in the boots. It got to the point in the store where she walked around shopping for cloth's with the boots on.

 

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

my boots were fitted professionally, btw.

problem is all retailers will only 'push' their products, hoping the boot's last will be a good fit for your fit.

 

and as per 'snug' yes I find as I get better I really like my boots to be very snug,

fitting like a glove to ensure as much power/control transfer as possible.

post #5 of 17

It sounds like your boots are too wide, although they may well be the correct length.  If they are too wide which I suspect is the case, something like the Intuition Luxury liner might help.  The reason I mention that liner specifically is that it can be had in 3 "flavors," high, medium and low volume.  That liner will give you the best chance to correct the problems.

post #6 of 17

Its possible that your boot fitting needs have changed since you were fitted for those boots.

 

I know that I'm skiing in a smaller, more advanced, boot now than I was just a couple years ago, mostly because I'm skiing better and more aggressively, thus needing a different flex and fit.

 

From my experience with the Krypton Kryzma, (same type of fit as the Cross) I had a good fit in the forefoot but my heel would loosen up as I "broke in" the boots.

This was with a 1 finger fit.  This coming season I'll be skiing something a bit different, with more of a snug heel fit, and performance flex.

 

 

Hope this comparison helps you a bit.

 

post #7 of 17

Are you touring in these boots or just downhill skiing?  

 

I think I remember you were trying to go touring with some very heavy gear that wasn't ideal for the purpose?

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

i'm only skiing downhill, not touring at all (they're not designed for such)...seeking to get out another 50x this yr.

 

can one buy the intuition liners at whistler bc?

(I live in vancouver and ski cypress mtn alot during the wk but whistler on the wkends)

 

post #9 of 17

I've heard lot's of promises of a good fit, but nothing fits as well as my old pair of custom- foamed VIP liners in my old race boots, now that I finally took the step and cut the little toe side of the forefoot of the two-sizes too small liners to make room for my forefoot.  The heel and ankle pockets are great.   The secret was using a couple of extra cans of foam to pack those liners to seam busting pressure, then giving the boots a good break in.  Too bad the original boot fitter who had started the process never got to finish it. 

 

When I'm done with my Koflachs,  you can bet I'll be getting another custom liner job.

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by canali View Post

i'm only skiing downhill, not touring at all (they're not designed for such)...seeking to get out another 50x this yr.

 

can one buy the intuition liners at whistler bc?

(I live in vancouver and ski cypress mtn alot during the wk but whistler on the wkends)

 

Google Intuition Liners as they are out of Vancouver. Call and talk to Crystal, she will get you hooked up with the correct liner.  Then you can either bake them yourself or take them into a shop and have them fit them for you.
 

 

post #11 of 17

It depends how close to perfect you shell fit is.  A custom liner can help, or assist, but they wont fix fundamental fit problems.

 

In Vancouver/Whistler there is really isnt any good boot fitters anymore.  The really good guys owned their shops, made serious cash, and retired.  The good employees mostly got jack of low pay, and so quit.   The guys coming up now, just really dont know.

 

One good thing with SureFoot is they guarantee their work.  So let them fit you, ideally with you current shells, get them to guarantee that one of their liners and footbed (you need to buy their foot bed to the the guarantee) will solve your problems.  Then if it dont work, tell them in certain terms you are not satisfied.  You will get a full refund.  They honour their guarantee.  The same cant be said for the others such as the former "SnowCovers".  But that is when you own your shells, not so sure how accomadating they are when you buy the shells from them too...as obviously it is a much bigger loss for them to also take the shells back, the liners dont cost them much, so it is not really as big loss if that is all you are returining.

 

Having said that, Fynatico, seems to be doing some good work.  George McKonkey of course still has a huge fan base.  My experience with George thou is he is good at making boots bigger for wide feet, not so good with narrow feet.  Plus you have to be able to deal with George, he is a nice guy and all....but never wrong, so if his fit isnt right, trust me, he will have a list as long as his arm why its actually your fault.

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 

thanks for all your replies

post #13 of 17

X2 Crystal at Intuition. Go to the source.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Castle Dave View Post

X2 Crystal at Intuition. Go to the source.


Crystal @ Intuition = hot in so many ways.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

recentlyt I got in touch with fanatiko since they sell dalbello (i have the cross boot) and was told to meet with

 a chap with a japanese name who works there (I have his name written down but not handy) to assess my gait, stance etc

...was also told that though they carry the intuition liners, the ones from dalbello are better quality.

(see link below)

http://www.fanatykco.com/itoolkit.asp?pg=SKI_BOOT_LINERS

 


Edited by canali - 9/29/11 at 3:40pm
post #16 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by canali View Post

recentlyt I got in touch with fanatiko since they sell dalbello (i have the cross boot) and was told to meet with

 a chap with a japanese name who works there (I have his name written down but not handy) to assess my gait, stance etc

...was also told that though they carry the intuition liners, the ones from dalbello are better quality.

(see link below)

http://www.fanatykco.com/itoolkit.asp?pg=SKI_BOOT_LINERS

...seems there is also a higher priced 'comformable' similar to the 'surefeet' liners,...in appearance anyway.

 


Kevin is good!

 



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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post


Crystal @ Intuition = hot in so many ways.


Any confirmation?

post #17 of 17

 

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custom boot linings: worth it in your op for improving skiing?

It is if you spend a lot of time skiing and wish your feet felt better while doing so.  Like the posts above mention there are many options here from somewhat risky DIY methods to pre packaged replacement liners to custom orthotics and pro bootfitting options.  Unless you're an experienced fitter or seasoned veteran that has altered lots of your own boots in the past you get what you pay for most of the time..

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