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2011 Armada TST

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A member suggested I post my review of the Armada TST here. It's also posted on the Gear Review link.

 

Pros: Light, superior carving and holding, great in all conditions, fast, floaty, turns quick, nice looking
Cons: Nada

Was able to buy a pair of the 183cm TSTs near the end of last season. I'm 6'0" 180 lbs and an Armada fan so I couldn't resist and I was not disappointed. These skis are super fun in all conditions. With the nice front rocker in powder they float well for a ski just over 100cm under foot. Just keep your weight over the skis, put them together, and you'll have a blast. They pivot really well and are very fun in the trees or in tight chutes. The long camber that goes nearly to the back-end of the ski, makes them grip well in hard-pack or on groomed. They have a nice GS turning radius, but can make quick turns with no problem. They handle moguls well so if you want to spend time in the bumps - go ahead. The TST is very good in steep terrain including tight chutes, big open bowls, or steep trees.

 

I also own the 185cm JJs and the 185cm ARV. The TST is similar to the JJ in the way it pivots, and how light it is, but beats the JJ in more packed conditions, carving, and speed. Skied Copper Mt., Breckenridge, Keystone, Wolfcreek CO, and Pajarito, NM in pretty much all conditions, including deep powder, and even some ice (which I don't like, but the TSTs handled it well).

 

Top-sheet graphics are cool, even with the pink. Mounted the Solomon STH binding (flat/low binding is going to work best for these) at the recommended placement and I suggest sticking with this location. Definitely don't mount forward; with the rocker tip there isn't much ski in front of you.

 

They also come in a 192 length that is probably awesome, but I haven't tried them.

 

There are lot of great skis out there and these will doubtless be copied just like the JP vs Julien (JJ) has been by several of the big manufacturers. I haven't skied on the clones, but if you believe what you read in SKI or SKIING Magazine (and I don't), the skis by the major manufacturers (often designs based on innovations by smaller companies) are awesome. Funny how the skis reviewed by these magazines are same as those buying advertising space on practically every page...


Edited by JLTSKI - 9/12/11 at 3:13pm
post #2 of 12

Nice Review!  Thanks for sharing!

 

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Originally Posted by JLTSKI View Post


They handle moguls well so if you want to spend time in the bumps - go ahead. The TST is very good in steep terrain including tight chutes, big open bowls, or steep trees.

So if I still suck in the bumps and the steeps your saying it is my lack of mad skilz???wink.gif  This is the first pair of new for the season skis I have ever bought. I normally wait for more reviews and the February deals, but figured this ski will likely be gone by Christmas in a 183, so after reviewing a bunch of skis in that 95-105 waist range, I went with these.  I sure hope I love them as much as everyone else has.  Then again, my motto is to just ride em and make em my b!tchbiggrin.gif

 

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Don't think you are alone in sucking at bumps. The only consolation I have when I ski bumps is that there is usually someone in the mogul field who sucks worse than I do - so it's relative...

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I just picked mine up today.. the friggin shop didn't have the old bit for Look P12's so I needed to buy new bindings. . however, he sold me some Marker Griffon's for cost, which was nice.. 

 

they are pretty sick looking skis..I'm psyched to get on 'em.. stiffer than my old ARV's and the guys in the shop couldn't stop raving about them.. I can see how they can rail in most snowpack. . it was refreshing to actually here some people say that they were a livlier more playful ski than the Bonafide's 

 

I, for one, can rip a bump line like Jeremy Bloom so I'll report back on the true performance of these in the bumps. 

 

<<< +50 Gnar points

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Hey fza2001, from another TST thread on TGR:

 

"I mount my own skis, so I tried to get the special step bit. No luck at tognar, sun valley, or race place. I called three shops in Seattle that carry Armada skis to see if I could borrow their step bit. One shop had it and wisely said they don't loan bits. The two other shops said they don't have the step bit and always just use a 3.5x9.5. I mention this as a word of caution in case you want your's mounted per Armada's specs. I ended up using a 3.5x9.5 bit followed up with 4.1 bit with collar set so it would just cut through the depth of the topsheet (about 2.5mm). This approach made sense to me, but that's just my opinion. I hemmed and hawed a lot about the mounting location. I was thinking about mounting them behind boot center since that's what I usually like, and because and I may try to get a pair of shorter boots. In the end, I decided not to deviate too much from the specs and mounted the Dynafits ST's at 82cm from the tail. So that's -1 for my current boots"

 

Maybe that info will help you use your old bindings?

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Thanks liv2ski. 

 

the problem was with the old binding's hole structure..  I drove an hour in traffic to get to the shop and didn't really feel like dicking around.  The guy knew the onus was on them, so they sold me a pair of Marker Griffon's for $125.  The Markers were SO much lighter, so it only made sense to go that route anyway.. probably a blessing in disguise.  I also figured that I'l be able to sell my old ARV's for far more money with a nice pair of Look's on them, as opposed to drilled and unmounted.  

post #8 of 12

This is a ski that I would like to demo, the idea of a multi-dim ski at this width underfoot seems to be the 1st and makes sense.

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one thing to note is that this ski has a TON of early rise in the tip.. they call it Elf boot rocker or something like that.. every comparable ski in the shop had subtle full and/or tip rocker, but the TST was much more drastic in comparison 

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interesting, how different then is the profile from a S3?
 

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one thing to note is that this ski has a TON of early rise in the tip.. they call it Elf boot rocker or something like that.. every comparable ski in the shop had subtle full and/or tip rocker, but the TST was much more drastic in comparison 



 

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interesting, how different then is the profile from a S3?
 



 

I haven't fondled a S3 but in this thread there is a good pic of the tip rocker

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/211141-Review-183-Armada-TST

The rise starts a good 14 inches back from the tip and rises about 3 inches per ski, so about 6 inches separate the tips when base to base.

 

post #12 of 12

thanks, sounds like a stiffer s3ish ski. I would love to see a S3, The One & TST showdown...

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