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post #31 of 53

^Really,  I have been skiing relentlessly for 50 yrs. & have never been seriously injured either skiing or snowboarding.  People do get hurt, & fear doesn't help, but a little respect can go a long way.

JF

post #32 of 53
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^Really,  I have been skiing relentlessly for 50 yrs. & have never been seriously injured either skiing or snowboarding.  People do get hurt, & fear doesn't help, but a little respect can go a long way.

JF



And to explain my fear a little further, I didn't go out enough to really get good at snowboarding.  The first time was a bunny hill lesson.  The second time I fell on my head and part of my fear for the rest of the day was that I thought I had a concussion (who knows, I may have).  Already my neck was becoming stiff and I had a pounding headache for the rest of the day after my fall.  The next time it was kind of crowded and my neck was still kinda stiff so I didn't stay as long as I wanted to.  Then school started up again and I just kind of forgot about buying more passes (I had had a beginner 3 lift ticket/ 2 lessons pass).

 

I almost decided to go for snowboarding again this year (I was determined to conquer my fear), but I just wanted to try skiing also.  The more I read about it and watched videos the more I started to think that I really wanted to just ski.  Really, I consider myself just another person who is going to start skiing this winter... I just happened to go out and almost kill myself on a snowboard first.  I consider myself a pretty athletic person and snowboarding came pretty naturally (I was miles ahead of everyone else in my newbie lesson) so I'm hoping skiing is the same way.

 

Plus my girlfriend will be there and I can't show her weakness biggrin.gif

post #33 of 53
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You appear to have very little understanding of the subjects you've chosen to write about here. Do you really think people want to read your poorly formed opinions on skiing and snowboarding? 



 



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Your first mistake was trying snowboarding in the first place...boarding blows except in the park...and skiers are even taking that over now...with more style...but if u got scared to get hurt and couldnt go fast anymore because of it skiing aint gonna be any better for ya...your gonna go just as fast and prolly faster and when u do fall which u will...its gonna hurt just as bad if your on really hard snow or worst..and u may even break a few things...not trying to scare ya ...but you can get hurt and get hurt bad boarding or skiing...and if u wanna do either well your gonna hafta get over the fear...or youre never gonna have a chance.


words.gif Do you even know what your talking about

 

post #34 of 53

Im not a skier.  I skied for three days in Utah the first time I was on snow and did this without lessons. It took me two full days of "winging it" to get myself down a green run while maintaining some control. The third day I had a little bit more control and tried a blue run. Literally took me 30 minutes to ski down it.  That was it for skiing.  two years later I moved to Mammoth and decided to snowboard.  Got free lessons because I was an employee and took three full days of group lessons.  BEST decision I could have made.  Like yourself (OP) I was a fast learner and my instructor noticed. He told me that I could be in his group each day and kind of took me under his wing because I expressed to him a high interest in learning the techniques.  After the lessons I had all of the basics down and could then go out on my own and with friends without fear of lagging behind or getting myself into trouble... or hurt.  Rapid progression from then on, and could ride all trails minus double black on hard pack within two months....and the better you get the more fun it is.  If I ever go back to skiing, Im doing the same thing again.

 

I have to assume it would be the same for you with skiing. Take the time to learn the basic techniques. Find a good instructor willing to work with you and tell him/her your interests.  If they care at all they will be glad to help you progress in a sport they too love to do. 

 

Oh and I tried teaching my girlfriend how to snowboard and it was a huge mistake. she fell hard once, blamed it on me and is now vowing to never board again.

post #35 of 53
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You appear to have very little understanding of the subjects you've chosen to write about here. Do you really think people want to read your poorly formed opinions on skiing and snowboarding? 


fact: for the vast majority it is easier to learn to ski then snowboard

fact: you can go just as fast on skis as u can on a board...actually faster

fact: you can get hurt just as badly on either

opinion: snowboarding blows

do u really think i care what u think?

Fact: i dont
Edited by Shaggy2010 - 9/13/11 at 6:49am
post #36 of 53

for excellent skateboarders and surfers, snowboarding has a short learning curve up to a point. correct? that was an early incentive for the sport. correct?

post #37 of 53
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for excellent skateboarders and surfers, snowboarding has a short learning curve up to a point. correct? that was an early incentive for the sport. correct?


I completely agree thats why i said majority.
post #38 of 53

Honestly, as someone who surfs and skis but has tried snowboarding, I really don't think there's all that much overlap between surfing and snowboarding.  Visually they can look very much alike, but with having your feet locked into place vs. free the actual execution is completely different IMO.

post #39 of 53

whatever, but I would say that if surfing did not exist, snowboarding would not have been invented when it was. yes? no? and the earliest snowboards had more to do with surfboard design than the current model snowboards do. then also, we could say that the first snowboarders were surfers also...I think. I'm remembering a fairly recent film that had a section on the first snowboards, looking way back.

post #40 of 53

Well of course.  Re-read what I wrote - I was merely saying that having some experience surfing won't necessarily translate to snowboarding IMO anymore than it will to skiing.  Maybe a little but not as much as most people would assume.
 

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whatever, but I would say that if surfing did not exist, snowboarding would not have been invented when it was. yes? no? and the earliest snowboards had more to do with surfboard design than the current model snowboards do. then also, we could say that the first snowboarders were surfers also...I think. I'm remembering a fairly recent film that had a section on the first snowboards, looking way back.



 

post #41 of 53

OK, granted, but if you were a really, really strong out-a-site-dynomite-surfer, you could step onto a snowboard and have a reasonable first day. If you have ridiculous balance and a solid surfing stance, it's going to click. 

post #42 of 53
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fact: for the vast majority it is easier to learn to ski then snowboard

fact: you can go just as fast on skis as u can on a board...actually faster

fact: you can get hurt just as badly on either

opinion: snowboarding blows

do u really think i care what u think?

Fact: i dont

 


or you know you could not be a douche.

 

Your correct that you can equally hurt in a major doing both but minor crashes when learning are much less painful on skis. You typically fall over onto your side while at the slowest point when skiing or occasionally you tumble going faster but again it's usually landing on your side first.

 

Snowboarding on the other hand you tend to catch an edge and either land on your tailbone or face first and you typically catch the edge during the turn initiation which is the fastest point in the turn.

 

So yes snowboarding hurts more to learn but has a very fast progression once you learn to link turns.

post #43 of 53
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or you know you could not be a douche.

 

Your correct that you can equally hurt in a major doing both but minor crashes when learning are much less painful on skis. You typically fall over onto your side while at the slowest point when skiing or occasionally you tumble going faster but again it's usually landing on your side first.

 

Snowboarding on the other hand you tend to catch an edge and either land on your tailbone or face first and you typically catch the edge during the turn initiation which is the fastest point in the turn.

 

So yes snowboarding hurts more to learn but has a very fast progression once you learn to link turns.


i totally agree...and that post was intended and in response to jackrods post
post #44 of 53
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I just found out that with my university ski pass I can get three lessons for $10 each.  The only downside is that I can only go night skiing to the resort that offers the deal (and the fact that it will probably be a crowded group lesson with lots of other college kids), but I'm willing to go night skiing a few times for that price.

post #45 of 53
Do it...i think youll enjoy it much better...and even lessons with a big group are gonna be way better then your girlfriend trying to teach you...gl n hf
post #46 of 53

In snowboarding if you catch your downhill edge, which it sounds like you did, you get really whipped down hard... those kinds of falls can be harder than a lot of skiing falls.  You basically have to keep only one edge touching at a time on a snowboard (and that's about all you have to do to snowboard lol).  I think skiing is a sport that will keep you interested for longer.  There is a lot more to it because your body position is not fixed, like it is on a board.  If you're athletic, go with skiing.  If you're not, boarding is probably for you.  As far as fear... just take it slow and don't go faster than, or beyond your ability.  You will improve steadily if you make the effort. 

post #47 of 53

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Edited by telerod15 - 9/15/11 at 5:54am
post #48 of 53

question.  what kind of bear is best?

 

that's a ridiculous question.

 

false.  black bear.

 

that's debatable, there are basically two schools of thought...

 

fact.  bears eat beets.  bears.  beets.  battlestar galactica.

 

 

@ the op.  listen to this flatlander.  he knows mostly everything there is to know about skiing.

 

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Originally Posted by Shaggy2010 View Post



fact: for the vast majority it is easier to learn to ski then snowboard

fact: you can go just as fast on skis as u can on a board...actually faster

fact: you can get hurt just as badly on either

opinion: snowboarding blows

do u really think i care what u think?

Fact: i dont

 


 

post #49 of 53

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Edited by JayT - 9/15/11 at 10:02am
post #50 of 53
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

OK, granted, but if you were a really, really strong out-a-site-dynomite-surfer, you could step onto a snowboard and have a reasonable first day. If you have ridiculous balance and a solid surfing stance, it's going to click. 



Actually the dynamics of snowboarding on anything other than deep pow are completely opposite on a snowboard. Most of the time it's your front foot that is the power foot, whereas surfing and skateboarding it's the back foot.

 

Short story is this.

 

Snowboarding = Hard to learn, easy to get better at once you have the basics

Skiing = Easy to learn (You're already standing), and hard to master due to so many more techniques available.

Athletically, it's actually kind of a wash. Each has it's own traits that can make you pretty beat.

 

Anyone still arguing that one is superior to the other is a moron of the highest magnitude, Both are exceptional vehicles for traveling on snow.

post #51 of 53

I have never strapped on a board in my life, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but:

 

Whenever I see most boarders struggling to maneuver through trees or bumps, or trying to make sudden, unexpected changes in direction, my aversion to it grows. They usually slide all over the place and/or squeege perfectly good powder away while getting very gnarly in the steeps. You have one, short edge and therefore (it would seem) less grip for turning. If you're committed and leaning hard and that one edge goes, you're down. Cruising on a board looks like it might be fun, but the versatility is lacking.

 

That said, I know an excellent boarder who can rival me on any terrain, anywhere. One. But then, he was a professional board racer, and has about 25 years of experience. So, I personally don't know about the learning curve difference, but it just seems that physics dictates that boarding is a less effective way to get down a mountain. Plus, I like having poles. ski.gif

post #52 of 53
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OK, granted, but if you were a really, really strong out-a-site-dynomite-surfer, you could step onto a snowboard and have a reasonable first day. If you have ridiculous balance and a solid surfing stance, it's going to click.

rolleyes.gif I would agree that the person you describe is probably gonna have a reasonable first day at ANY balance/dynamic sport, in fact he will progress at an alarming rate. 

Have you ever been surfing???

 

 

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Anyone still arguing that one is superior to the other is a moron of the highest magnitude, Both are exceptional vehicles for traveling on snow.

Hey both are fun, but I guess I am still a moron of the highest magnitude wink.gif.

 

Thanks,

JF
 

 

 

post #53 of 53

Thank you!  This was exactly what I was trying to say earlier in this thread.
 

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Actually the dynamics of snowboarding on anything other than deep pow are completely opposite on a snowboard. Most of the time it's your front foot that is the power foot, whereas surfing and skateboarding it's the back foot.



 

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