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Phil's little joke is that the Series 2 Volants would bend permanently if you pranged them.    And you couldn't really avoid pranging them in 3D terrain.        An unbent series 2 Volant is therefore a bit like a road bike that doesn't smell of horse droppings after a ride through Amish country: rare and not much ridden.
 

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I'm going to say that Volkl Sanouk started early rise technology. quickly followed by Rossignol B-Squad. That would be around 2004?



 


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They were   Volant's answer to the "allmountain" race carve category, like Volkl's  P50 Platinums for example, and a decent answer at that.


Exactly, this was a redesign of the Volant Gold after Atomic purchased the brand, they were altered to have the exact same dimensions as the Atomic SX11.

 

 

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I'm going to say that Volkl Sanouk started early rise technology. quickly followed by Rossignol B-Squad. That would be around 2004?


As I recall, there was no "early rise" technology before the Spatula, which came out in 2004.
 

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Phil's little joke is that the Series 2 Volants would bend permanently if you pranged them.    And you couldn't really avoid pranging them in 3D terrain.        An unbent series 2 Volant is therefore a bit like a road bike that doesn't smell of horse droppings after a ride through Amish country: rare and not much ridden.
 


Yeah, but I also recall that Phil claimed that the foam core 2005 models did better than the wood core '03 and '04 models.  Phil sold off a pair of Platinums (after first trying to sell them to me of course) that he hadn't managed to bend, after posting to this effect.

 

I expect it had as much to do with the way Phil skis bumps, as the design of the skis. I've never bent a pair of V2s, but I did manage to "early rise' a pair of '02 Gravity Power, and break a V2 Chubb dropping a pillow line (it wasn't all that pillowy).

 

This thread is fun, all I have to do is talk about my addiction, and I get clouds of enablers swarming me.biggrin.gif

 

Just to stem the tide of folks trying to get me to take possession of every Volant in the world, I was simply musing over my addiction, and my attempt to low ball up a pair of a specific ski, so listen carefully.......

 

........no I don't want to buy your skis!

post #34 of 37
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Exactly, this was a redesign of the Volant Gold after Atomic purchased the brand, they were altered to have the exact same dimensions as the Atomic SX11.

 

 

Now you've got me interested in them.  You will have to post a comparison dissertation if you end up buying them.
 

 

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Now you've got me interested in them.  You will have to post a comparison dissertation if you end up buying them.
 

 


I'm pretty sure I won't buy them, unless the seller drastically reduces his expectations. I also have never skied an SX11, so I'd have a difficult time comparing them beyond what I've done already.

 

It is notable that the vapor treatment that was used to give the color to the skis (and skis of other colors too) also had the effect of hardening the steel, which means the Gold and Platinum have much harder steel than the Silver, so there's more to the color than pretty topsheets, it also makes them stiffer.

 

 

 

 

post #36 of 37

 I was living in Tahoe when the first Sanouks came out, the brown leather top sheet, and research checks my memory, it may have been 2006. It had a long tapered tip that rose from the cambered section about 10cm earlier than a normal camber profile. the split tail offered a long edge in some conditions but flexed more easily than a square tail in other conditions, like tail rocker, functionally. I have no clue when the Spat came out relative to the Sanouk. Anyone know. It's important, damnit. wink.gif This is about the genesis of a movement.

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As I recall, there was no "early rise" technology before the Spatula, which came out in 2004.
 


Yeah, but I also recall that Phil claimed that the foam core 2005 models did better than the wood core '03 and '04 models.  Phil sold off a pair of Platinums (after first trying to sell them to me of course) that he hadn't managed to bend, after posting to this effect.

 

I expect it had as much to do with the way Phil skis bumps, as the design of the skis. I've never bent a pair of V2s, but I did manage to "early rise' a pair of '02 Gravity Power, and break a V2 Chubb dropping a pillow line (it wasn't all that pillowy).

 

This thread is fun, all I have to do is talk about my addiction, and I get clouds of enablers swarming me.biggrin.gif

 

Just to stem the tide of folks trying to get me to take possession of every Volant in the world, I was simply musing over my addiction, and my attempt to low ball up a pair of a specific ski, so listen carefully.......

 

........no I don't want to buy your skis!



 

post #37 of 37

what do ya'll think of the Vokoil Kendal's as a powder ski will they do the right job?

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