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Pretty nifty ski car right here...

 

http://trucktracks.com/en/

post #842 of 863
I vote for a Toyota Sienna AWD...it's a minivan, so not very cool, but very comfortable and roomy and great in the snow...besides Toyotas last forever smile.gif

I've had two Subaru Foresters...the first one I bought and the second one was given to me...both of them had head gasket problems to the tune of several thousand dollars...Incedentally I'd never buy another Subaru again.

My old Jeep Cherokee was terrible on gas, uncomfortable to drive, and rusted out after 10 years of Northeast winters, so no vote for Cherokees from me.
post #843 of 863
Cherokees, at least the WJ's, can get the computer blues. Car may refuse to start or shut off after 10 secs - anti theft computer. Windows may not operate or operate bizarely. There's at least one well known problem with the screws on the case affecting the board.
I suppose it's not the worst thing as changing computers or getting them rebuilt isn't that bad if you can do it yourself.
post #844 of 863
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Cherokees, at least the WJ's, can get the computer blues. Car may refuse to start or shut off after 10 secs - anti theft computer. Windows may not operate or operate bizarely. There's at least one well known problem with the screws on the case affecting the board.
I suppose it's not the worst thing as changing computers or getting them rebuilt isn't that bad if you can do it yourself.

 

You mean Grand Cherokee's right?  I have seen those issues but not experienced it with mine.

 

After 5 Jeeps I'm out. Really liked them but probably going over to Toyota for awhile.

post #845 of 863
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Cherokees, at least the WJ's, can get the computer blues. Car may refuse to start or shut off after 10 secs - anti theft computer. Windows may not operate or operate bizarely. There's at least one well known problem with the screws on the case affecting the board.
I suppose it's not the worst thing as changing computers or getting them rebuilt isn't that bad if you can do it yourself.

 

You mean Grand Cherokee's right?  I have seen those issues but not experienced it with mine.

 

After 5 Jeeps I'm out. Really liked them but probably going over to Toyota for awhile.

Yes. 2002 Grand Cherokee was the issue. First was it wouldn't start initially, but then started fine. That happened very randomly though and never failed to actually start. Then there were the gauges going to zero - tach and speedo, then back to normal. While driving. Sometimes they'd bounce up and down. Or stay off for awhile. Then oddities with the windows. Like push for up and it goes down or vice versa. Then one day the window wouldn't go back up. Tried the disconnect battery for a minute and reconnect. I think that solved the window, but then the car shut off after 10 secs.

 

There are a fair number of online forums for Jeeps that you can get info on. Researching, this was not uncommon. Repairing those two things at a dealer would be a couple grand probably.

post #846 of 863
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Yes. 2002 Grand Cherokee was the issue. First was it wouldn't start initially, but then started fine. That happened very randomly though and never failed to actually start. Then there were the gauges going to zero - tach and speedo, then back to normal. While driving. Sometimes they'd bounce up and down. Or stay off for awhile. Then oddities with the windows. Like push for up and it goes down or vice versa. Then one day the window wouldn't go back up. Tried the disconnect battery for a minute and reconnect. I think that solved the window, but then the car shut off after 10 secs.

 

There are a fair number of online forums for Jeeps that you can get info on. Researching, this was not uncommon. Repairing those two things at a dealer would be a couple grand probably.

 

Good info Tog. I guess another issue worth mention is the crank and cam sensors going out. Causes random no starts, dies and other issues. I have been a member at Jeepforum.com for years. The help there was excellent. Like here.

post #847 of 863
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Do not buy a used Subaru 2.5 without verification that the head gasket has been recently changed.

If it hasn't negotiate price down $1200-$1800

 

I'd never buy one regardless.  Ours had the head gasket go out TWICE.

 

Mechanic said he advises people not to touch them.   00-05' 2.5 should be avoided IMO.

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Starting in 1980, have had 5 Sub wagons. Had one gasket go, did belt pump gasket and gave it to the kids after another 160,000 miles....family mechanic is a Sub rally driver, he claims most can't find a good machine shop any more...thus the problem...his Mach shop is another rally Sub pilot....
I'm not saying some folks have a bad mechanic, just maybe a weak link in the maintenance chain...too bad. We live on an island near Van BC and if you counted ford pu 4x and subaru...you counted 3/4s of the island population, folks who Have to be self sufficient...no choice
post #850 of 863
Head gasket is no longer a problem on Subaru engines so it's a moot point anyway.
post #851 of 863
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Head gasket is no longer a problem on Subaru engines so it's a moot point anyway.


What years and models suffered from the head gasket problem.  IIRC there was a fix that was supposed to have fixed it at one time, but didn't. 

post #852 of 863
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What years and models suffered from the head gasket problem.  IIRC there was a fix that was supposed to have fixed it at one time, but didn't. 

Not sure, but none of the current gen suffers from it.
post #853 of 863
I would recommend the Audi Quattro Q5 TDI. However, there is one caveat... VW cheated emissions testing and they are currently resolving cases with owners in a buyback program. We have a 2014 model and it has amazing power and we use it during winter to drive 90 minute treks to our ski mountain. When we have encountered storms, it has always exceeded my expectations. You could probably find a nice 2016 preowned for cheap.
post #854 of 863
$6K for a very well maintained loaded 2004 Sequoia Limited.

2WD/AWD/4WD/low range. Previous owner installed double din touch screen head unit with backup cam, V8, bought with 253K, runs like new.

About 2K of suspension and tire upgrade, plus a few maintenance items. Family ski rig monster.



post #855 of 863
Have been observing what's going up the road to the mountain with me in the mornings lately.

1. Pickup with cap/topper
2. pickup without cap
3. Subaru Outback
4. SUV
5. Miscellaneous (buses, tow trucks, SNOW Bus, etc.)
6. Standard sedan

Well over 60% are pickups. Presumably with bags of salt in them.
post #856 of 863
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Have been observing what's going up the road to the mountain with me in the mornings lately.

1. Pickup with cap/topper
2. pickup without cap
3. Subaru Outback
4. SUV
5. Miscellaneous (buses, tow trucks, SNOW Bus, etc.)
6. Standard sedan

Well over 60% are pickups. Presumably with bags of salt in them.

Very few pickups here, SUV/car is about half half, but definitely disproportional high amount of Outbacks (and other Subarus to a lesser extend).
post #857 of 863
This may be my next one. The old Wagoneers are my all-time favorite.
post #858 of 863
I like the old Wagoneers too but at $60K base one has a lot of vehicles from which to choose and I don't know if Jeep makes the cut. The Grand Wagoneer will be around $90K. In that range I expect a higher level of customer care than my Jeep dealership can give. They've unfortunately been a low rent experience with my Cherokee.
post #859 of 863
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I like the old Wagoneers too but at $60K base one has a lot of vehicles from which to choose and I don't know if Jeep makes the cut. The Grand Wagoneer will be around $90K. In that range I expect a higher level of customer care than my Jeep dealership can give. They've unfortunately been a low rent experience with my Cherokee.


My jeep (Chrysler) dealer has provided an excellent level of care on our company Jeep.  I'm just glad I'm not paying for that service (e.g. two new axles, and more that I can't recall off hand) our sub 45000 mile 4 year old vehicle. 

post #860 of 863
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I like the old Wagoneers too but at $60K base one has a lot of vehicles from which to choose and I don't know if Jeep makes the cut. The Grand Wagoneer will be around $90K. In that range I expect a higher level of customer care than my Jeep dealership can give. They've unfortunately been a low rent experience with my Cherokee.

A Land Cruiser price for a Jeep is a funny joke.

Now if they give it solid front and rear axles and go all out high end plus retro capability...

...people will still buy the Wrangler for half...
post #861 of 863
Buying a $90K Jeep would be like buying s $50 steak at Applebee's.

Edit: the following article was posted late last night. It appears they're trying to bring the price down from what they'd originally intended. Probably a good idea, given the competition. $140,000 Jeep! Could you imagine??? I'd be looking at different marques for sure.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20170115/OEM03/301169959/revised-product-strategy-could-result-in-lower-prices-for-top-end
Edited by Toecutter - 1/15/17 at 5:09am
post #862 of 863

We went to a party at a ski friends house overlooking the mountain the other week. The house is on the end of the road, We noticed every other car or SUV parked there was a Subaru, it was kind of funny, but say's a lot. There was about 25 people at the party. We were all season pass holders or employee's.

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