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post #1 of 10
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Hi - Coaching house league racing this season and plan to work alot with the beginner kids on skiing/racing technique.

 

Any suggestions from coaches/parents out there on ski recommendations for kids to learn and grow to GS turns on?

 

Would you recommend a Junior race ski or a recreational ski? Thoughts on sidecut?

 

Thanks folks!

 

BTW- small local hill: 300 ft so we're down pretty quick here...

post #2 of 10

How old? 

 

Jr race skis and boots will provide the best performance if the intention is to learn to race.  Fischer, Rossi, etc all provide good equipment for kids of most ages.  if you  are coaching, shouldn't you already know this?  

 

 


Edited by canadianskier - 9/5/11 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by canadianskier View Post

How old? 

 

Jr race skis and boots will provide the best performance if the intention is to learn to race.  Fischer, Rossi, etc all provide good equipment for kids of most ages.  if your coaching, shouldn't you already know this?  

 

 



My question was more to get other coaches views on specific brands? Also if they have been transitioning new racers over from rec skis with similar sidecuts or pushing straight to race skis, regardless of experience or technique. I'm sure we've all seen plenty of young racers on skis they can't flex and would ski better, learn better, race better on whaterver gets them through the course fastest, graphics aside.  Lastly I'm sure you noted the 300' race hill is not exactly Lake Louise, so a GS race ski for longer courses may actually be counter productive. Most of the kids are trying to learn to ski concurrently with learning to race. I'm interested if others have observed the same and how they've addressed it to the benefit of the child and maybe what results they saw.

 

Next time save the sarcasm, please. Be nice.

 

post #4 of 10

Not a coach, but I work with many junior racer's families to get their gear for the year at our shop.  My go to 99% of the time is the Fischer Junior Race series.  Truly great skis and the kids love them.  The only time we usually would put a kid on a non-race junior ski are the ones on lower end of the J5's but most do just fine on a junior race ski.

post #5 of 10


Sorry for the sarcasm. However, your question was a bit unclear and I should have focussed on that. For example, what ages are you referring to - that would give people an idea of weight and size. You didn't specifically ask about kids who are transitioning from rec skis to race skis - you asked "Any suggestions from coaches/parents out there on ski recommendations for kids to learn and grow to GS turns on? Would you recommend a Junior race ski or a recreational ski? Thoughts on sidecut?"   Your second response is more specific. 

 

Now to try to respond.  I've been around many kids who have transitioned from rec skiing to racing.  Having a jr ski that is the appropriate length (about nose to eye height) usually works for most young kids.  This rule of thumb usually prevents the issue of being on skis that are way too stiff.  Most kids who ski on Jr race ski that is the proper length don't have the problems of being too stiff.  

 

Young kids in our club often ski on Rossi, but also like Fischer, Head and and less so on Volkl, but that is probably an old issue of perceived problems with marker bindings.  Rossi, for example offers skis from lengths from 100 cm to 130 cm for little kids, and does not really differentiate between sl and gs at that age and skill level.  Rossi tends to turn a little easier and works better for lighter, less aggressive skiers. However, between the major brands, if you have the correct size, the ski tends to work well

.

Race skis seem to work well for kids that are transitioning into racing, better than rec skis, as they work better for race specific skiing. and better on hard snow.    I never found a young kid that didn't like the transition.
 
 

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Originally Posted by csr_jr View Post





My question was more to get other coaches views on specific brands? Also if they have been transitioning new racers over from rec skis with similar sidecuts or pushing straight to race skis, regardless of experience or technique. I'm sure we've all seen plenty of young racers on skis they can't flex and would ski better, learn better, race better on whaterver gets them through the course fastest, graphics aside.  Lastly I'm sure you noted the 300' race hill is not exactly Lake Louise, so a GS race ski for longer courses may actually be counter productive. Most of the kids are trying to learn to ski concurrently with learning to race. I'm interested if others have observed the same and how they've addressed it to the benefit of the child and maybe what results they saw.

 

Next time save the sarcasm, please. Be nice.

 



 

 


Edited by canadianskier - 9/5/11 at 8:44pm
post #6 of 10


Sorry for the sarcasm. However, your question was a bit unclear and I should have focussed on that. For example, what ages are you referring to - that would give people an idea of weight and size. You didn't specifically ask about kids who are transitioning from rec skis to race skis - you asked "Any suggestions from coaches/parents out there on ski recommendations for kids to learn and grow to GS turns on? Would you recommend a Junior race ski or a recreational ski? Thoughts on sidecut?"   Your second response is more specific. 

 

Now to try to respond.  I've been around many kids who have transitioned from rec skiing to racing.  Having a jr ski that is the appropriate length (about nose to eye height) usually works for most young kids.  This rule of thumb usually prevents the issue of being on skis that are way too stiff.  Most kids who ski on Jr race ski that is the proper length don't have the problems of being too stiff.  

 

Young kids in our club often ski on Rossi, but also like Fischer, Head and Volkl, but Volkls seem to have less popularity, which is probably an old issue of perceived problems with marker bindings.  Rossi, for example offers skis from lengths from 100 cm to 130 cm for little kids, and does not really differentiate between sl and gs at that age and skill level.  Rossi tends to turn a little easier and works better for lighter, less aggressive skiers. However, between the major brands, if you have the correct size, the ski tends to work well

.

Race skis seem to work well for kids that are transitioning into racing, better than rec skis, as they work better for race specific skiing and better on hard snow.    I never found a young kid that didn't like a jr race ski for the transition.
 
 

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Originally Posted by csr_jr View Post





My question was more to get other coaches views on specific brands? Also if they have been transitioning new racers over from rec skis with similar sidecuts or pushing straight to race skis, regardless of experience or technique. I'm sure we've all seen plenty of young racers on skis they can't flex and would ski better, learn better, race better on whaterver gets them through the course fastest, graphics aside.  Lastly I'm sure you noted the 300' race hill is not exactly Lake Louise, so a GS race ski for longer courses may actually be counter productive. Most of the kids are trying to learn to ski concurrently with learning to race. I'm interested if others have observed the same and how they've addressed it to the benefit of the child and maybe what results they saw.

 

Next time save the sarcasm, please. Be nice.

 



 

 

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

That's great insight guys - many thanks!

post #8 of 10

I don't have a racer, but I'm trying to figure out which skis are the "best" for my up & comers who are 8 & 11. I'm wondering what are good junior all carving/mtn skis for Tahoe skiers? I know my kids can ski the fatties and like them. But the issue I have with those types of skis are do they teach the kids how to carve a turn? Or are they too much of a cheater ski?

 

So, I'm debating about whether to get some carving skis or all mtn (ie: fatter) skis?

 

thoughts?????

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

I'm not sure there is such a thing as a cheater ski anymore... Like my cavity back irons, people just play them. Tahoe is a big playground - which one do you think they will have the most fun with?

post #10 of 10

Yep, csr_jr, I was probably over thinking it.Thx!

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