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Hi All:

 

New to the site and looking to get back into skiing after a four year absence.  Hoping you all can give me some help in selecting a new pair of skis.  I'm a 36 year old, 175lb, 6ft tall former racer and competitive mogul skier (like almost 20 years ago) who's been skiing since the age of 5 and who grew up in the Canadian Rockies skiing every weekend every winter for 12 years.  So technically a very good skier who was at one point an anything anywhere anytime kind of skier.  Having said all that, I have not skied in four years (since moving to the east coast of the US) and am in worse shape and much less strong than I used to be (though I do hope to be in decent shape by the time the snow flies).  The last skis I skied on were a pair of Volkl AC4s which completely blew my mind since the skis I was on before that were Salomon GS cap skis from the mid-90s in, like, a 205cm.

 

I am now looking to pick up a decent pair of all-mountain skis (probably in the 85-95mm waist range) that are well-matched to my ability and that will suffice in powder in a pinch (a 50/50 or 60/40 on/off piste).  Most of my skiing will be in the East (mostly NYC area - Catskills and Adirondacks with perhaps a trip or two up to Vermont), but I do have a trip to Alta planned for January.  As much as I like to pretend that I do it all, I have always been primarily a speed demon and the one thing I love more than anything is to rip fast (very very very fast) turns down a steep groomer and to just let them run when crowds (or lack thereof) permit.  With that in mind, I do want something that will take me through the crud off-piste and, like I said, suffice in powder in a pinch and that will allow me to have a reasonably good time out in Utah.  At this point in my skiing career, I can live without a solid performance in the bumps.

 

I am really not at all experienced with the new ski technology (rocker? early rise? no rocker? what's that all about?) and, given my time away from the sport, I really don't have much of a sense of how these things ski now days.  I know everyone is going to tell me to demo before I buy but I'd like to try to pick up something discounted from last year's model range so I don't think demo'ing is going to be an option.  Based on my research, skis that have piqued my interest are: (1) Volkl Kendo, (2) Volkl AC50 (3) Volkl Mantra (4) Line Prophet 90, (4) Blizzard Magnum 8.7, (5) Blizzard Bushwacker, (6) Atomic Crimson Ti, (7) Salomon Sentinel (8) Kastle MX88.  Was kind of sold on on the Line Prophet but then started reading a lot of descriptions of it as a beginner/intermediate ski that can't handle speed.  Also leaning strongly toward the Kendo but am worried that it is too much of an on-piste ski.  Also want to make sure I don't get something that is just too much ski for me now that I've been away from the game for so long and am not as strong as I once was.

 

Please also feel free to tell me to stop overthinking this.  The truth is, all of these skis will probably blow my mind given how skis have evolved over recent years.  In any event, I really do appreciate any assistance you can provide.

 

Thx! 

post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by Rocky75 View Post

Hi All:

 

New to the site and looking to get back into skiing after a four year absence.  Hoping you all can give me some help in selecting a new pair of skis.  I'm a 36 year old, 175lb, 6ft tall former racer and competitive mogul skier (like almost 20 years ago) who's been skiing since the age of 5 and who grew up in the Canadian Rockies skiing every weekend every winter for 12 years.  So technically a very good skier who was at one point an anything anywhere anytime kind of skier.  Having said all that, I have not skied in four years (since moving to the east coast of the US) and am in worse shape and much less strong than I used to be (though I do hope to be in decent shape by the time the snow flies).  The last skis I skied on were a pair of Volkl AC4s which completely blew my mind since the skis I was on before that were Salomon GS cap skis from the mid-90s in, like, a 205cm.

 

I am now looking to pick up a decent pair of all-mountain skis (probably in the 85-95mm waist range) that are well-matched to my ability and that will suffice in powder in a pinch (a 50/50 or 60/40 on/off piste).  Most of my skiing will be in the East (mostly NYC area - Catskills and Adirondacks with perhaps a trip or two up to Vermont), but I do have a trip to Alta planned for January.  As much as I like to pretend that I do it all, I have always been primarily a speed demon and the one thing I love more than anything is to rip fast (very very very fast) turns down a steep groomer and to just let them run when crowds (or lack thereof) permit.  With that in mind, I do want something that will take me through the crud off-piste and, like I said, suffice in powder in a pinch and that will allow me to have a reasonably good time out in Utah.  At this point in my skiing career, I can live without a solid performance in the bumps.

 

I am really not at all experienced with the new ski technology (rocker? early rise? no rocker? what's that all about?) and, given my time away from the sport, I really don't have much of a sense of how these things ski now days.  I know everyone is going to tell me to demo before I buy but I'd like to try to pick up something discounted from last year's model range so I don't think demo'ing is going to be an option.  Based on my research, skis that have piqued my interest are: (1) Volkl Kendo, (2) Volkl AC50 (3) Volkl Mantra (4) Line Prophet 90, (4) Blizzard Magnum 8.7, (5) Blizzard Bushwacker, (6) Atomic Crimson Ti, (7) Salomon Sentinel (8) Kastle MX88.  Was kind of sold on on the Line Prophet but then started reading a lot of descriptions of it as a beginner/intermediate ski that can't handle speed.  Also leaning strongly toward the Kendo but am worried that it is too much of an on-piste ski.  Also want to make sure I don't get something that is just too much ski for me now that I've been away from the game for so long and am not as strong as I once was.

 

Please also feel free to tell me to stop overthinking this.  The truth is, all of these skis will probably blow my mind given how skis have evolved over recent years.  In any event, I really do appreciate any assistance you can provide.

 

Thx! 


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Any of the skis that you list all have their plusses and minuses and not will be perfect. There is a cost for everything. If you are looking at leftovers, part of the cost in a discounted price is the limitation of options. Of you are looking for more off piste (trees in the east and trips west) I would suggest  staying away from system skis and more to flat skis. 

 

post #3 of 6
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Many thanks Philplug.  Can you tell me more about the difference between flat and system and why the flats are better for off-piste.  As I said, I've been out of the game for a while and am not really familiar with the new technology.  Thanks again,

post #4 of 6

Rocky 75,  as a fan of system skis for non powder use, I am guessing Phil mentioned the difference, as a flat ski will have more flex than a ski mounted with a system binding.  A slightly softer feel in Powder is what most mortals would prefer. Stiffer on firm to hard snow is my preference.

post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 

liv2ki:  Thanks for the explanation.  That helps a lot.  I gotta say, buying skis sure is a lot more complex than back in the good old days where you'd just pick the slalom ski or the GS ski (depending on your preference) from your favorite brand and then maybe pick up a pair of mogul skis if you were into bumps.

post #6 of 6

did Blizzard get away from systems? are the rails considered a system? do they still use the plates, (rails?) for binding interchangeability? on any of the model series? Whereas the Answer at 110mm had the rails in 09, the current powder skis have no rails, I think.

 

Rocky, I wouldn't take as general truth the idea that a system ski is stiffer. I don't believe that is the issue for choosing between system and flat. And you thought you had solved your query that easily.....
 

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Any of the skis that you list all have their plusses and minuses and not will be perfect. There is a cost for everything. If you are looking at leftovers, part of the cost in a discounted price is the limitation of options. Of you are looking for more off piste (trees in the east and trips west) I would suggest  staying away from system skis and more to flat skis. 

 



 

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