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Rockered skis and touring?

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I am looking to buy a touring setup and have been reading stuff over at tgr a lot. There seems to be some division on whether or not a rockered ski would be terrible for touring.  Obviously something with a huge rocker wouldn't be ideal but something with only a slight rocker?

 

Also what's your guys opinions on how important the weight of a ski is? Personally I am not putting a huge importance on it since I will likely never really do any touring longer than a day.   

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Originally Posted by lonewolf210 View Post

I am looking to buy a touring setup and have been reading stuff over at tgr a lot. There seems to be some division on whether or not a rockered ski would be terrible for touring.  Obviously something with a huge rocker wouldn't be ideal but something with only a slight rocker?

 

Also what's your guys opinions on how important the weight of a ski is? Personally I am not putting a huge importance on it since I will likely never really do any touring longer than a day.   

pm gears lhasa or the dps 120 skin infinately times better than the lotus 138 or splatula imo, bu im dialing the tecnique

Pm Bob Lee for the #1 answer on the weight question

its been discussed

 

 

post #3 of 12

i tour with my Moment Night Trains (big rocker in the tip and tail). i get some weird looks, but if you dont mind extra weight, its fine. i actually dont mind weight. i tour with my night trains mounted with marker dukes. (imagine the weight). if your'e in shape, its not bad.

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Glad to see you back, lonewolf210. Hope you had a chance to read Trempers' book on Staying Alive. I skied my Manaslu's with a rise in the tip and really liked how they floated in powder. They did me well on the groomers too. My son has been doing some touring on Pontoon's and he really likes them on the PNW powder days. He prefers his K2 Baker lites with Dynafit Speeds for every day work. Weight matters to me because I'm old and weak but not so for my son who is very strong on the up.

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total newb at touring and I wanted a powder-oriented ski for short  hikes (less than hour) to get to some untracked shots. I picked up a pair of S3's stupid cheap (thanks Phil) and just scored a pair of FT's brand new for 200.  I am hoping this works out.  Any comments? (hey, it's September so sarcasm is OK). I have a pair of G3 skins.  ANy help or setup advice is appreciated. (you  gotta start somewhere)

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Originally Posted by wasatch powder skis View Post

Pm Bob Lee for the #1 answer on the weight question

its been discussed

 

Heh.  http://www.epicski.com/t/104666/at-setup#post_1355313

 

To the OP, rockered skis tour fine - I tour on rockered-tip Black Diamond Justices when the snow's soft.  The only time it would be an issue is if you have a fully rockered ski and the snow's hard...but you wouldn't want those skis in those conditions anyways.  If you want just one pair of all-around touring skis keep the rocker to a minimum, like just the tip.  

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total newb at touring and I wanted a powder-oriented ski for short  hikes (less than hour) to get to some untracked shots. I picked up a pair of S3's stupid cheap (thanks Phil) and just scored a pair of FT's brand new for 200.  I am hoping this works out.  Any comments? (hey, it's September so sarcasm is OK). I have a pair of G3 skins.  ANy help or setup advice is appreciated. (you  gotta start somewhere)


That's never going to work - in fact it's a dangerous set-up.  Send them to me and I'll try to dispose of them properly so that no one gets hurt.  wink.gif

 

Serially, looks like a nice rig.  The only thing I'd do to improve it would be to use Dynafits (or Plums) instead of the FTs.  wink.gif

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Thanks, hey the FT price was too good (froma newbs perspective) to pass up. Once I get started I can take the training wheels off and upgrade.  thanks! I was a little concerned. icon14.gif
 

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That's never going to work - in fact it's a dangerous set-up.  Send them to me and I'll try to dispose of them properly so that no one gets hurt.  wink.gif

 

Serially, looks like a nice rig.  The only thing I'd do to improve it would be to use Dynafits (or Plums) instead of the FTs.  wink.gif



 

post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post

 

 

Heh.  http://www.epicski.com/t/104666/at-setup#post_1355313

 

To the OP, rockered skis tour fine - I tour on rockered-tip Black Diamond Justices when the snow's soft.  The only time it would be an issue is if you have a fully rockered ski and the snow's hard...but you wouldn't want those skis in those conditions anyways.  If you want just one pair of all-around touring skis keep the rocker to a minimum, like just the tip.  

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Thnx for the input. Maybe I'll look for some s3's too hadn't really looked into them  
 

 

post #10 of 12
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So I just got a deal on a pair of 181 Salomon shoguns. Any recommendations on where to mount?

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I've got a pair of K2 Pontoons w/ Marker Dukes - they're my powder ski at resorts as well as for short backcountry...  They are certainly very heavy, and I'm not in perfect shape, but you can get up the mountain just fine...

 

I've had 'em out for a few places in the Anchorage, AK area - it's probably my setup w/ the Dukes and the weight, but I find they're hardest on flatter terrain (i.e. getting to the UP part of the climb).  Once you're actually climbing it doesn't seem so bad.  

 

On the other hand though, I'm definitely the slowest one of a group when we're out (even if I'm not the most out of shape) and I would never want to take them out if there is going to be crust or anything nasty.  Hope that helps.

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I ussually go on the line, topsheet up with the toe of the binding towards the tip. I used a jig thing or measure a bunch observe all shop saftey procedures and use appropitiate tools to keep from boogerin it up



Thanks for clearing that up I thought the toe of the binding went towards the tail. rookie mistake nonono2.gif

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