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Junior Race Ski Stiffness

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My daughter is racing as a J3 this year.  She's raced a bit but never joined the team.  She's on the small side for 14 y/o; 4'9" 77#.  She'll be a J3 but is the size of a J4.  My thoughts are to error on the size of too small for and SL ski and hopefully just right for a gs ski.  She does OK in GS but has never raced in SL.  Has done some SL training but that is it.  She can get gold in NASTAR no problem.

 

The last two years she has been on Atomic Race 8 130 cm and they are way too small for her.  In trying to keep the cost somewhat down, I've been searching for a deal on skis and am torn between Fischer and Atomic.  Because of her weight, I would like to get her a softer ski and keep getting mixed reviews.  The skis I'm looking at for her are:

 

Atomic Race 12

SL 137

GS 151

 

Fischer RC 4 WC

SL 135

GS 150

 

I know the race 12's are a cap ski but from what I understand, are built along the line of a more traditional race sandwich ski and are supposed to work well for Junior racing.  My concern is that they will be too stiff for her.  I've always heard that Fishcers are stiff but I'm being told that in the junior skis, the Atomics are stiffer than the Fischers.

 

Hoping one of the race parents/coaches/sellers can shed some light on this.  I know the real answer is ask her coach but she doesn't have a coach yet. 

 

I have asked the race coach/instructor that has worked with her for the last couple years (mostly free skiing) and her description of her is:

 

"I would consider Jordan to be an aggressive skier and likes a great deal of speed. It would probably be good for her to get on something that is pretty easy to turn and quick to respond. That way she can't just ride hard and bail out on the turns! I am not by any means critisizing Jordan's skiing ability. I think that she is a terrific skier and will be an asset to the race team, but I also see her as as a terrific freestyler. (You don't have to tell her I said that I said that last part if you don't want to!)"

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Ken

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We have a shop or two in NJ and NY that has a rental program for kids.  Up in NH you should be able to find something.

 

The good news is that you could rent top line gear like GS or SL skis or Lange Kiddie Race boots and they would allow you to adjust during the season.  Nice if the foot grew or the kid out paced the ski.  Better yet you did not have all that stuff to sell at the end of the season.

 

My son was on the lighter side and one of the folks here came up with a pair of Blizzard with a slightly softer flex.  Legal race ski too and that will come into play for you in a few years.

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Thanks for the replies and information.  My preference however is to buy as there are some good deals available and when she does grow out of something, my grandson pretty quickly grows into it; she's small for her age and he's big for her age.  So far it has worked out.

 

I've been to ski shops to include ski shops that carry race gear for kids with racers on staff.

 

What I'm really looking for is someone to say, "Yes, the Fischer RC4 WC Jr GS is softer than the Atomic Race 12 GS."  Once I hear that - or the opposite, I will place my order with the local shop (getting last years gear at a nice discount).

 

I'm sure she'll be fine on either and I'm probably thinking about this too hard (as is my way), but I couple of the local race parents said they had issues with their kids being in skis to long/stiff last year and had to size down this year.  Not exactly the same problem that I have but I would like to give her a ski she can work with and isn't holding her back.

 

My gut tells me Fischer is the way to go.  When I was working NASTAR last year and they would bring the race kids (J6/5/4) through, most all of them were on Fischer.  Could be that the warehouse is local and they are easy to come by, or it could be that the kids do better on them.  Everyone that recommended Atomic was an Atomic family and that was all the kids ever skied.

 

Thanks,

Ken

post #5 of 7

At the junior level, if those are your only choices, definitely go with the Fischers. The Atomics are much stiffer. The Fischers will allow her to improve her technique instead of fighting against her. Volkls are about the same as the Fischers with Nordica in between the Fischers and the Atomics. Best of luck to your daughter.

 

Karl

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Yuki's recommendation of Blizzard is a good one. Smaller stature types seem to do well on them.

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Originally Posted by orionxprss View Post

At the junior level, if those are your only choices, definitely go with the Fischers. The Atomics are much stiffer. The Fischers will allow her to improve her technique instead of fighting against her. Volkls are about the same as the Fischers with Nordica in between the Fischers and the Atomics. Best of luck to your daughter.

 

Karl



Thanks.  Did that.  Ended up with new last year's GS and this year's SL.  She's very excited about it and when she saw the GS skis she said "Those things are Ginormous!"  Looks like it's going to be an exciting year. 

 

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