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How, and why to use Swix Glide Wax Cleaner

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This is a video about use of Swix Glide Wax Cleaner.  Hope it helps answer questions about  it.

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I've used this product and thought it worked okay until I tried Renew by Dominator.

 

Hot scraping with Renew works really well!

http://tognar.com/dominator_wax_waxes_waxing_ski_snowboard.html#renew

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I've used this product and thought it worked okay until I tried Renew by Dominator.

 

Hot scraping with Renew works really well!

http://tognar.com/dominator_wax_waxes_waxing_ski_snowboard.html#renew


You know I only use Dominator waxes including Base Renew waxes.  The Swix Glide Wax Cleaner may be better that a hot scrape.  THEN use the Renew.  I hate hot scraping skis.  Because I use a hot box, I am able to see the results in wax absorption before and after using the product.  Of course it will not remove a base burn.  The stuff doesn't remove hydrocarbon waxes.  It will soften them a bit only.  It does remove any dirt pollen and grease etc.  Be good TrekChick!

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I just got done doing a total tune on a new from factory Rossignol S7's.  When I used the Swix Glide Wax Cleaner I got tons of brown crap in the cloth wipers.  Don't ever think a "new" ski is clean.  Since I have been using this product I have been amazed.  The reason I like it so much is it cleans without totally braking down hydrocarbon wax.  It also as Swix claims conditions the base to make it receptive to wax.  I highly recommend Swix Glide Wax Cleaner!

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Jacques,

 

You are correct, skis generally come out of the factory quite dirty.

 

The grinding process generates a very fine powder, mostly metal that is converted to rust

rapidly and hangs in the air before it is eventually deposited on every surface including the

base of the ski. The wax is then rolled on the skis and it traps this dust, which is barely

visible to the naked eye.

 

It also traps the surfactants and lubricants left over from the stone-grinding process. The most

efficient way to remove that is by using base cleaner as it would just take way too many hot-scrapes

(around 5) to achieve the same results. But this is the only time the bases should see base cleaner; on new or

newly stone-ground skis.

 

And yes, base cleaner does make the base more receptive to wax as it strips out the wax you

worked so hard to put in as a dry base is receptive to saturation.

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Jacques,

 

You are correct, skis generally come out of the factory quite dirty.

 

The grinding process generates a very fine powder, mostly metal that is converted to rust

rapidly and hangs in the air before it is eventually deposited on every surface including the

base of the ski. The wax is then rolled on the skis and it traps this dust, which is barely

visible to the naked eye.

 

It also traps the surfactants and lubricants left over from the stone-grinding process. The most

efficient way to remove that is by using base cleaner as it would just take way too many hot-scrapes

(around 5) to achieve the same results. But this is the only time the bases should see base cleaner; on new or

newly stone-ground skis.

 

And yes, base cleaner does make the base more receptive to wax as it strips out the wax you

worked so hard to put in as a dry base is receptive to saturation.


Thanks Tom.  But really, this stuff does not really cut wax like a other base cleaner.  It will soften it, but it doesn't remove it like other base cleaners.  As far as hot scraping goes only the super soft waxes like your Renew products would be the ones I use as the way I see a hot scrape working is when the wax IS liquid.  Then a "wave" of wax is created.  In the wave the junk is caught and is then removed.  So I feel if one is just scraping "warm" wax that has solidified it's not as effective.  It goes without saying, but i will say that Dominator is the only wax I use and promote.  I have always used base cleaners on new skis.  I have been using the Swix Glide Wax Cleaner for a few years now, but this was the first time I tried it on a new pair.  They were last years models, so they sat around for a long time.  If you have not tried the product give it a try.  The T-Man is my hero for sure and I thank you both for all your help.  You guys have the best info about wax science I have ever found anywhere.  Take care Tom, and thanks again, that explains the brown color very astutely.  Now out to the shop to start the base prep on those new skis with you guessed it, Graphite Renew!

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